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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Mar 2007
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People do outgrow friendships and you might forget (or perhaps "cease to think about" may be more accurate) a close friend from your early childhood. This seems normal enough.
So I do agree that Turin forgot about Nellas in part because he outgrew her, "for he grew swiftly, whereas she seemed no more than a maiden of his own age, and was so in heart for all her elven years". (With respect to the question of Nellas' age the description of her being young in heart as opposed to simply young led me to believe that though childlike, Nellas is not a child). I had not considered the question of Turin trying to consciously suppress his memories of Nellas in part because it seemed as if his time with her is one of the happier periods in his life. Quote:
(In reading the last sentence of that quote though it now occurs to me that the duration of the Turin/Nellas friendship may have been much shorter than I imagined - that their "morning of spring" friendship is more akin to a real world "summer friendship", great while it lasts but then the friends go their separate ways to forget and be forgotten. ) However, what sparked my interest in this topic is the conversation between Beleg and an adult Turin. While I accept that you can outgrow friendships and cease to think of a childhood playmate, I find it odd that hearing Nellas' name in Beleg's story triggers no memory for Turin. "... I cannot recall her" Turin tells Beleg. When Beleg looks at him strangely and reminds him that as a boy he would walk in the woods with Nellas, Turin then says: Quote:
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Wight of the Old Forest
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall
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But there may be more to it. I'm reminded of another dialogue, where Beleg, when Túrin refuses to accept any 'gifts out of Doriath', tells him: Quote:
To me it looks like Túrin, in his grudge against Thingol for exiling him (when he had actually exiled himself), had sub-consciously or half-consciously repressed the memory of any positive aspects of his life in Doriath (such as his childhood friendship with Nellas)which could have contradicted his feeling that he had been wronged (cf his chosen name Neithan) through no fault of his own.
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Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI |
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