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Old 11-18-2010, 02:56 PM   #1
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I'd add, don't approach it as a duty. If you love Middle-earth, you probably owe it to yourself to give the Sil a shot, but it doesn't make you a bad Tolkien fan if you never warm up to it.
So true! You can't understand The Sil if you don't love the world of LOTR (not only ME, I mean the whole world).
I think it helps to reread The Sil after you finish it, because many things could be unclear or confusing the first time.
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:09 PM   #2
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So true! You can't understand The Sil if you don't love the world of LOTR (not only ME, I mean the whole world).
Absolutely. And I think appreciation of Sil is also impacted by the ways in which LOTR touched you.

To use my experience as an example of what I mean... I fell in love with not just the story, but with the rich depth behind and surrounding that story. Tolkien was constantly throwing in tidbits that hinted at a full history and life underlying, surrounding, upholding, and informing the world we were experiencing with Bilbo, Frodo and his friends. For example:
  • Elrond tells Bilbo & co. that the sword Gandalf took from the trolls had been owned by the King of Gondolin.
  • Gimli, in his chant about Kazad-dum refers to "Elder days before the fall of mighty kings in Nargothrond and Gondolin that now beyond the western seas have passed away".
  • Faramir recounts Gandalf talking about "my youth in the west that is forgotten".
  • Aragorn sings about Beren and Luthien.
  • Bilbo sings about Earendel (knowing he is Elrond's father).
The Appendicies were rich fare for one eager and yearning to learn more and dig deeper into that history - but far too short for my taste.

Publication of Silmarillion was, for me, like opening the BonAdventure penthouse restaurant to one previously limited to snacking on hour-dourves in the lobby. Now I could actually *VISIT* that old world, rather than just hear about it.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:51 PM   #3
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For me, I read the Sil because it has the same phylosophy*. It is very different, but the principles remain the same. Of course, I also wanted to find more about Earendil and all these other guys mentioned in LOTR, but its more the world that I wanted to know about than the history. But both are interesting and rich.

*Philosophy isn't the right word here. Its more like the play of values and emotions...
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Old 11-19-2010, 10:31 PM   #4
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For me, I read the Sil because it has the same phylosophy*. It is very different, but the principles remain the same. Of course, I also wanted to find more about Earendil and all these other guys mentioned in LOTR, but its more the world that I wanted to know about than the history. But both are interesting and rich.

*Philosophy isn't the right word here. Its more like the play of values and emotions...
I suppose I wanted to know about the world as much as the history. Though Children of Húrin will remain the best 'history' bit for me
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Old 11-20-2010, 11:12 AM   #5
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Narn is the best emotional part for me.
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Old 12-02-2010, 12:33 AM   #6
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Narn is the best emotional part for me.
Yes, that too I felt the elves were more 'human' in CoH. We never had such a close view of elves, except in LotR with Legolas and Galadriel.
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Old 12-15-2010, 07:58 PM   #7
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It's not really that (but that too, yes). Its just that COH is so... powerful. It just makes me go WOW, like absolutely WOW. I don't have the right word for such a feeling. The whole Sil is WOW, but it's more concentrated in COH. Maybe cause it's a separate book that can go into more details, but I think its really what happens in the Narn.
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