WW: LXXXIV - Middle Earth in Fifteen Minutes - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nessa Telrunya · 12-15-2010, 04:14 PM

I am really suspicious of the Inzil-Hubby conversation on Day 1... It's something to start with right? Trace the other wolves from the one we know. And she's been chipping in at just the right moments to tip the Votes.

elronds_daughter · 12-15-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

I am really suspicious of the Inzil-Hubby conversation on Day 1... It's something to start with right? Trace the other wolves from the one we know. And she's been chipping in at just the right moments to tip the Votes.

Completely coincidental, I assure you.

Right. Well. I stand firm in my belief that the wolves are Wilwa and Legate.

I have a feeling those two will vote for me. At this point, I'm the only other unknown.

They've already been through the "By the gods, I don't care who you kill, just don't lynch ME" routine, so that's old, so I won't bother with it.

All I ask is that you, Nessa and Lommy, think carefully about who you're sending to the noose.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-15-2010, 05:04 PM

I have looked once again at the thread, now when I look at it retrospectively, all of the things stand out in a completely different light.

LRH indeed acted many times in the manner of the sort of basic Wolf, or newbie-Wolf attitude. Her Day 1 "of course now everybody is suspecting me, just because of a little bit of self-preservational instinct" was probably a genuine Wolvish fear, likewise, she seemed to me like using the tactic of "buttering up" players from time to time - I even believe that her yesterDay words that because I suspect her, she thinks I am innocent might have been something like that - I mean, that's a thing you might suppose to throw many innocents off-balance if they are suspecting you. Her way of e.g. suspecting me and Lommy early on was made in the sort of classic "I am suspecting them, but of course I might be wrong" way, to make herself an escape route, if need be. And the Inzil-debate was just the last thing.

Wilwa, on the other hand, was all the time generally subtle, I would say that she was basically avoiding making her own decisions. Her posts early on contain basically no real content, that way, she managed to slip past by and "fly under the radar". Her vote on Day 1 was random, her vote for Lottie was merely one in the crowd, with Inzil, she probably planned to cover herself with a Wolf-on-Wolf vote. Last Day she did not vote at all. She did not make much of a contact with anybody, not really any direct links, except for mentioning the Lommy and Boro business, which however was sort of "in course" back then. I am sure it was all just calculated. Basically, she is the sort of elusive type of Wolf, leaving no direct trace.

That's sort of to do justice to everything - you can see for yourselves.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 12-15-2010, 06:40 PM

Well, is anybody around?

The time is getting late for me. I am going to remain around for some amount of time still, but I need to go to sleep too. Lommy, Nessa, if you are debating between Wilwa and Hubby, simply choose one of them which you think is likely, but make sure you choose the same one. I can follow your vote, just as long as it is one of them. Then we can hopefully lynch the other one the following Day. But simply make sure that it is one of them, or we are finished already now.

Thinlómien · 12-15-2010, 07:05 PM

Nessa,

I'm currently thinking our wolves are Wilwa (wasn't her post exactly like a wolf's that has given up?) and probably Legate. There is something that rings false in his manner (but ok I admit I suspect him everytime he takes that tone and sometimes he's innocent). Not exactly sure what to make of Elra's "And I'm inclined to think Wilwa's a wolf. Probably Legate too, if you are who you say you are. (If you aren't, shame on me, but it seems an elaborate lie for this late in the game. So, I think you're being truthsome.)" (emphasis mine). It just seems weird. However, her tone rings the most innocent in total to me. Like I said, Wilwa is giving up too easily and sounds like a cornered wolf (is not contributing etc) and Legate on the other hand seems kind of too quick to assure we're on the same team with him. Elra seems the most honest.

I'm not sure at all about Legate being a wolf, but I'm pretty sure Wilwa is one. That's why I'd feel by far the safest to lynch her and will vote her unless you absolutely forbid me to. I'd love to check the three's interactions with each other and Zil, but it's 3am here and I still have an essay to finish, so honestly I'm not sure if I can.

Do you have any specific thoughts? Anything new?

Nessa Telrunya · 12-15-2010, 07:16 PM

I suppose, if either Hubby or Leggy were a wolf, wilwa would be a logical packmate for either. We should go for whoever has the most possibility, and everyone needs to vote together to be effective.

Thinlómien · 12-15-2010, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nessa Telrunya

I suppose, if either Hubby or Leggy were a wolf, wilwa would be a logical packmate for either. We should go for whoever has the most possibility, and everyone needs to vote together to be effective.

Right. One reason - I know I keep repeating this - I suspect Wilwa above all is that it seems so unlikely LRH and Legate are fellows/ both wolves.

So my preference would be to lynch her toDay and make the decision between LRH and Legate toMorrow when at least I have more time to go through Zil and Wilwa's interactions with them. With good luck (50% chance

) we are both still here to ponder that toMorrow and at least one of us will be.

All of this of course assuming I'm not totally wrong and LRH and Legate are in cahoots. In that case I take full responsibility for the innocents losing (although please still don't neg-rep me, after all I made a save and all

) and say they actually deserved it with putting up such a show.

So, huge objections against lynching Wilwa toDay anyone? I'm considering going to sleep very soon and finishing the essay tomorrow since there's 2h 15min at least between the end of my lecture and the deadline...

Thinlómien · 12-15-2010, 07:26 PM

And haha as a total piece of randomness I get the most wolvish vibes from Nessa atm. Epic fail gut-feelings, eh?

(Eomer would deserve a flogging if Nessa was a wolf.)

12-15-2010, 04:14 PM	#1
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	I am really suspicious of the Inzil-Hubby conversation on Day 1... It's something to start with right? Trace the other wolves from the one we know. And she's been chipping in at just the right moments to tip the Votes. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

12-15-2010, 05:04 PM	#3
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I have looked once again at the thread, now when I look at it retrospectively, all of the things stand out in a completely different light. LRH indeed acted many times in the manner of the sort of basic Wolf, or newbie-Wolf attitude. Her Day 1 "of course now everybody is suspecting me, just because of a little bit of self-preservational instinct" was probably a genuine Wolvish fear, likewise, she seemed to me like using the tactic of "buttering up" players from time to time - I even believe that her yesterDay words that because I suspect her, she thinks I am innocent might have been something like that - I mean, that's a thing you might suppose to throw many innocents off-balance if they are suspecting you. Her way of e.g. suspecting me and Lommy early on was made in the sort of classic "I am suspecting them, but of course I might be wrong" way, to make herself an escape route, if need be. And the Inzil-debate was just the last thing. Wilwa, on the other hand, was all the time generally subtle, I would say that she was basically avoiding making her own decisions. Her posts early on contain basically no real content, that way, she managed to slip past by and "fly under the radar". Her vote on Day 1 was random, her vote for Lottie was merely one in the crowd, with Inzil, she probably planned to cover herself with a Wolf-on-Wolf vote. Last Day she did not vote at all. She did not make much of a contact with anybody, not really any direct links, except for mentioning the Lommy and Boro business, which however was sort of "in course" back then. I am sure it was all just calculated. Basically, she is the sort of elusive type of Wolf, leaving no direct trace. That's sort of to do justice to everything - you can see for yourselves. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-15-2010, 06:40 PM	#4
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Well, is anybody around? The time is getting late for me. I am going to remain around for some amount of time still, but I need to go to sleep too. Lommy, Nessa, if you are debating between Wilwa and Hubby, simply choose one of them which you think is likely, but make sure you choose the same one. I can follow your vote, just as long as it is one of them. Then we can hopefully lynch the other one the following Day. But simply make sure that it is one of them, or we are finished already now. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

12-15-2010, 07:05 PM	#5
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Nessa, I'm currently thinking our wolves are Wilwa (wasn't her post exactly like a wolf's that has given up?) and probably Legate. There is something that rings false in his manner (but ok I admit I suspect him everytime he takes that tone and sometimes he's innocent). Not exactly sure what to make of Elra's "And I'm inclined to think Wilwa's a wolf. *Probably* Legate too, if you are who you say you are. (If you aren't, shame on me, but it seems an elaborate lie for this late in the game. So, I think you're being truthsome.)" (emphasis mine). It just seems weird. However, her tone rings the most innocent in total to me. Like I said, Wilwa is giving up too easily and sounds like a cornered wolf (is not contributing etc) and Legate on the other hand seems kind of too quick to assure we're on the same team with him. Elra seems the most honest. I'm not sure at all about Legate being a wolf, but I'm pretty sure Wilwa is one. That's why I'd feel by far the safest to lynch her and will vote her unless you absolutely forbid me to. I'd love to check the three's interactions with each other and Zil, but it's 3am here and I still have an essay to finish, so honestly I'm not sure if I can. Do you have any specific thoughts? Anything new? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

12-15-2010, 07:16 PM	#6
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	I suppose, if either Hubby or Leggy were a wolf, wilwa would be a logical packmate for either. We should go for whoever has the most possibility, and everyone needs to vote together to be effective. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

12-15-2010, 07:26 PM	#8
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	And haha as a total piece of randomness I get the most wolvish vibes from Nessa atm. Epic fail gut-feelings, eh? (Eomer would deserve a flogging if Nessa was a wolf.) __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris