WW: LXXXV - The Lost Philosophers of Maiar - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rikae · 01-13-2011, 04:03 PM

Last time I go along with the crowd on anything, I tell you.

I hate to think how Shasta must have reacted to yesterDay...

Pitchwife · 01-13-2011, 04:09 PM

*applauds*

satansaloser2005 · 01-13-2011, 04:10 PM

See what happens when you lynch me? Bad things!

*comforts Mac, starts up a rousing game of kick the muffins*

Nogrod · 01-13-2011, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I hate to think how Shasta must have reacted to yesterDay...

He must have quite a bruised forehead from all the headdesking.

And you guys were lynching the wolves basically everyDay - normally you had two of them to lead the votes... and in the last moment you decided to let go of them!

The wolves singlehandedly took down twenty villagers without even one casualty of their own! That might be a record of some sort?

Cheers to the wolves for heart-stopping boldness - and well, some good luck as well.

So many of you villagers were on the right tracks, such many times... Tough going this time.

Inziladun · 01-13-2011, 04:10 PM

*Ouch*

Well, that was grim, indeed. I saved a wolf, but I went out voting for one anyway.

Cailín · 01-13-2011, 04:11 PM

How embarrassing. The wolves were perfect -of course- but the ordinary villagers exceptionally foolish. Including myself here. Boromir88, you must have been awfully amused while "desperately pushing" for a Nessa-lynch.

To Shasta: this Manwe thing was so not your fault. Also not mine or Rikae's.

Pitchwife · 01-13-2011, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cailín

To Shasta: this Manwe thing was so not your fault. Also not mine or Rikae's.

Seconded.

Also, the deep and fitting irony that the last Day of this game ended with lynching the Elder King.

Aganzir · 01-13-2011, 04:13 PM

Facepalm.

Whoops.

From now on I'll always trust my gut. Skip I hate you! Wilwa I hate you too (I had my doubts about you but never paid enough attention to you)! And why why why did we leave Nessa alive all those days? Boro what on earth were you up to?

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Awesome job, wolves (& cobbler).

Guess who I protected last night? That's right: skip. I thought I could as well roll a die so it was kind of random. I would've been so mad if Mac had been a wolf because I protected him twice, though (and Lottie & Greenie once).

Aganzir · 01-13-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Easily the worst game I ever played as an ordo. *shakes head*

Ehehe I could say the same, except the other time I was the ranger (Legate & Greenie did you get my hint(s)?) I was lynched on day 2 after a heavy quarrel with the hunter.

Being the first to declare Boro the cobbler. Analysing skip and concluding he looked innocent enough (I was having doubts because I have noticed I have a tendency to always suspect him). Starting the bandwagon against Pitch when we should have lynched skip. And forgetting all about wilwa after my day 2 bad feeling about her! Fail.

By the way who did Kit hunt?

Nogrod · 01-13-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

By the way who did Kit hunt?

On D1 she picked Sally. She changed it to Pitchie on N2 and held with him to the end.

Aganzir · 01-13-2011, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

On D1 she picked Sally. She changed it to Pitchie on N2 and held with him to the end.

And you didn't let her take him with her? Grrrr!

Shastanis Althreduin · 01-13-2011, 04:34 PM

Agan didn't see the hint in my first post of the game, apparently.

N1 - Agan
N2 - Eomer
N3 - Legate
N4 - Rikae
N5 - Skip

Aganzir · 01-13-2011, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Agan didn't see the hint in my first post of the game, apparently.

Aaaaaaaaahlögdzhöadbgvl! *headdesk* I was like, "That's weird, why should he say so?" but didn't draw the connection to myself and then forgot about it because I usually only skim through people's IC banter anyway.

That was so stupid of me. Seriously.

Another stupid thing is, I found your comments on Legate seerish on your last day but you were suspected so much I didn't think the wolves would kill you. Of course it's hard to predict who they kill when you have no idea who they are, but still.

*goes to the corner to sulk*

Shastanis Althreduin · 01-13-2011, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Aaaaaaaaahlögdzhöadbgvl! *headdesk* I was like, "That's weird, why should he say so?" but didn't draw the connection to myself and then forgot about it because I usually only skim through people's IC banter anyway.

That was so stupid of me. Seriously.

Another stupid thing is, I found your comments on Legate seerish on your last day but you were suspected so much I didn't think the wolves would kill you. Of course it's hard to predict who they kill when you have no idea who they are, but still.

*goes to the corner to sulk*

Oh good, you found it.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-13-2011, 04:46 PM

Hey, that was just amazing. I mean, sure, I am on the losing side, but I cannot help to feel wonderful about this game. Aside from the "minor" thing that I have been enjoying it since the beginning till the end (except for the moments when I wailed each Evening over the revelation what was the role of the lynched one), I agree with that it must be some sort of record to have four WWs surviving till the very end.

And you were all quite good, I mean, the pack was really "standard", up to the point of being totally unsuspicious. I mean: all this stuff about Nessa really being a Wolf, all this thing about people who were unsuspicious being really innocent - no double-bluffs, it was in fact quite plain, especially the thing about Nessa, like I said on the thread, we can now surely call her a survivalist Wolf. Such narrow escapes, for so long!

I must say I am however really happy for being right about Agan one time, resp. about not suspecting Agan and she still being innocent. I mean, wow.

And Mänwe! I am so sorry for participating in lynching you! But hey, even in spite of that, I am glad that except for the fail on last Day, I have been right about you and defended you even when the crusade started. Silly us, that was a total fail with the presumption about Shasta's last dream. But I mean, for a Seer, this game must have been a horror - he could easily get into deficite over one Night, just imagine, you dream two innocents during first two Nights and next Night they can both be dead and you can start anew. I consider it a small miracle Shasta managed to dream of three people who remained still alive.

Brilliant job, Wolves, what more to say...

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Ehehe I could say the same, except the other time I was the ranger (Legate & Greenie did you get my hint(s)?)

Um... no? What hints might that have been?

Aganzir · 01-13-2011, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Um... no? What hints might that have been?

Lobster (okay it wasn't exactly a hint but Greenie might have got it because she calls me Lobster every now and then).
And pull yourself together or I'll give you Sharkey!

Greenie and Legate, both of whose innocence I was more or less convinced, were the only people who might have connected Lobelia to the ranger.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-13-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Lobster (okay it wasn't exactly a hint but Greenie might have got it because she calls me Lobster every now and then).
And pull yourself together or I'll give you Sharkey!

Greenie and Legate, both of whose innocence I was more or less convinced, were the only people who might have connected Lobelia to the ranger.

Okay, that was a bit too complicated for me, at least. Had you said "umbrella", it would have been far clearer.

Speaking of that, it didn't even cross my mind (okay, I think maybe once on some later Day) that you might be the Ranger, all the time I have been thinking of some quieter or even less experienced players - because the Ranger didn't manage to protect anybody, which I considered interesting given the amount of kills every Night... on the other hand, it's true that exactly for that reason it was not also easy to hit the right person, there were still too many options...

Pitchwife · 01-13-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

Awesome job, wolves (& cobbler).

Amen about the wolves, but as for me, I don't think so. This was actually one of my cluelessest games ever. When I tell you who I thought the wolves were on my last Day living, you'll all gonna laugh your heads off. Somehow though I seem to have done the real wolves no lasting harm (despite stubbornly suspecting and voting one of them for half the game!), which is no small marvel.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-13-2011, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Amen about the wolves, but as for me, I don't think so. This was actually one of my cluelessest games ever. When I tell you who I thought the wolves were on my last Day living, you'll all gonna laugh your heads off. Somehow though I seem to have done the real wolves no lasting harm (despite stubbornly suspecting and voting one of them for half the game!), which is no small marvel.

So, who? Care to share?

We won't laugh (too much)... at least I'd be interested to know.

Pitchwife · 01-13-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

So, who? Care to share?

We won't laugh (too much)... at least I'd be interested to know.

It'll take some time to explain, and I need to go to bed, but I'll tell you the full story tomorrow. For today, suffice it to say that the only real wolf I ever considered for even a while was Nessa (on the Day I voted Zil over her).

Macalaure · 01-13-2011, 06:35 PM

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I would've been so mad if Mac had been a wolf because I protected him twice

Guessing your role right was actually the only good thing I managed to do this game - after you brought my attention to the fact that Shasta referred to you as a cobbler, but to Rikae as an ordo. Didn't help, though.

Inziladun · 01-13-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Easily the worst game I ever played as an ordo. *shakes head*

Tell me about it. If I hadn't second-guessed myself at the last moment and voted Nessa instead of Lottie, things might have gone differently.

I came into this game feeling rather relieved to not be a wolf finally, and as a result I was pretty careless, saying whatever was on my mind, with little thought as to how it would make me look. We see how well that worked.

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Congrats to the wolves, though! Very well and very sneakily played.

Indeed. Most impressive!

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

On D1 she picked Sally. She changed it to Pitchie on N2 and held with him to the end.

See? I was all for lynching Kit! We could've gotten the Cobbler at least.

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

I was at a loss on what to do, because right from the start it was like we got heavily suspected. Day 1 Nessa and Wilwa were in trouble, and Skip a little bit. Then Nessa some more, then me, then back to Skip, then back to me. It was a rollercoaster of emotions and nearly impossible to find the seer since it seemed like everyone had suspicions against at least one wolf.

I'd like to point out that even though I later dropped the ball on Nessa, I was the first to suspect her for something (the "numbers" Day 1 post), and what happened? I got suspected instead.

Great game, Nogmod! I enjoyed it immensely.

Galadriel55 · 01-14-2011, 06:15 AM

I was watching the game, and it really has to be a record - not a single wolf lynch!

Boromir88 · 01-13-2011, 06:37 PM

Well even if none of us got lynched and swept clean through, none of you made it easy that's for sure.

I was at a loss on what to do, because right from the start it was like we got heavily suspected. Day 1 Nessa and Wilwa were in trouble, and Skip a little bit. Then Nessa some more, then me, then back to Skip, then back to me. It was a rollercoaster of emotions and nearly impossible to find the seer since it seemed like everyone had suspicions against at least one wolf.

It was a fortunate stroke to get Shasta, I don't even remember what led to that decision, I think it was mostly Skip who had to decide as I don't think the rest of us were on close to the DL. My guess for a few days had been Legate because the day Inzil was lynched he said he would "really prefer" Nessa, and I thought that was a slip as I was sure from how suspected Nessa was early on the seer would have dreamt her. Then Skip asked about elron and after looking through her posts thought she was a good guess too.

It was a battle trying to figure out what to do, because we wanted to keep the 2 kills but also not leave a clear trail by defending eachother. So early on it was kind of like..."fend for yourselves" and use the sheer number of people to get in at least a few double kills. But it was like defense mode from the start with the first suspicions being against wilwa, Nessa, and Pitch. I tried to play nice and put on the charm, but come Day 2 Mac called me out for doing nothing productive, and my night PMs consisted of "Mac's not the seer. He's not the seer, just put up with him, *sigh* can't we just kill him anyway?"

So, then thinking well, charm's going to wear off how do I not get lynched? Let me play politics and do absolutely nothing helpful at all. I went into obstruct everything and give nothing away mode. Obviously this meant I was the cobbler and I ran with that idea, which I thought was going to pay off...until the cobbler was lynched. That night I recall several times telling the other wolvsies "I'm so dead tomorrow. It's over, I don't have a miracle to pull this out. I'll try some lame excuse for my ridiculous behavior but I'm soooo dead and buried tomorrow." Miracle came with the seer's death and then everyone being soooo confident about Manwe. I didn't want to jump out and support it confidentally fearing some sort of massive innocent retracting catching all the wolves for jumping quickly for a Manwe lynch.

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Originally Posted by Cailin

Boromir88, you must have been awfully amused while "desperately pushing" for a Nessa-lynch.

Those last days were fun. I knew no one was trusting me farther than they could throw a heavy gorilla, so I thought the only thing I could do was to fuel the feeling that Nessa was getting set up and then also defend Manwe.

Very enjoyable game to Nog and all the new faces and returning players, brings back nice memories. (And huge apolgies to Lommy about your broken bororadar)

Loslote · 01-13-2011, 06:44 PM

Well done, wolves. *grump*

Really, though, you guys were amazing. And may I point out that lynching Kit would have been more helpful than lynching me?

01-13-2011, 04:09 PM	#2
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	applauds __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

01-13-2011, 04:10 PM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	See what happens when you lynch me? Bad things! comforts Mac, starts up a rousing game of kick the muffins __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

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Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Ouch Well, that was grim, indeed. I saved a wolf, but I went out voting for one anyway. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-13-2011, 04:13 PM	#8
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Facepalm. Whoops. From now on I'll always trust my gut. Skip I hate you! Wilwa I hate you too (I had my doubts about you but never paid enough attention to you)! And why why why did we leave Nessa alive all those days? Boro what on earth were you up to? [/rant] Awesome job, wolves (& cobbler). Guess who I protected last night? That's right: skip. I thought I could as well roll a die so it was kind of random. I would've been so mad if Mac had been a wolf because I protected him twice, though (and Lottie & Greenie once). __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

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Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Agan didn't see the hint in my first post of the game, apparently. N1 - Agan N2 - Eomer N3 - Legate N4 - Rikae N5 - Skip __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

01-13-2011, 04:03 PM	#1
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Last time I go along with the crowd on anything, I tell you. I hate to think how Shasta must have reacted to yesterDay...

01-13-2011, 04:11 PM	#6
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	How embarrassing. The wolves were perfect -of course- but the ordinary villagers exceptionally foolish. Including myself here. Boromir88, you must have been awfully amused while "desperately pushing" for a Nessa-lynch. To Shasta: this Manwe thing was so not your fault. Also not mine or Rikae's.

01-14-2011, 06:15 AM	#23
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,515	I was watching the game, and it really has to be a record - not a single wolf lynch! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

01-13-2011, 06:44 PM	#25
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	Well done, wolves. grump Really, though, you guys were amazing. And may I point out that lynching Kit would have been more helpful than lynching me? __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris