Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 01-30-2011, 07:47 PM

I might as well not even try anymore, since obviously every word typed out of my fingers is a hint of some devilry. (Beware! It's another hint! Ahh I did it again!

) Love you as much as a I do Agan, if you say you know more about when I'm dropping hints to people than I do myself, you can't be surprised I'm going to disagree on that.

And Lommy, I never said anything about dropping your suspicions because you're a friend. I'm saying I thought I'd get better treatment, even if you were suspicious of me for good reason, and you wouldn't stand idly by for the vague feelings of guilt trumped up against me.

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Originally Posted by phantom

Yeah... still think Boro's a Cobbler. If he's a Wolf playing Cobbler in order to survive then my hat is off to him. Sorry lad- it's just the impression that I've carried on from Day 1 and I haven't had a chance to hit the reset button, and I can't give you a better explanation than that.

Yeah, because that is really going to help me and give me a fair shot to prove to you I'm not a cobbler nor a wolf. Thanks bud.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Boro

Yeah, because that is really going to help me and give me a fair shot to prove to you I'm not a cobbler nor a wolf. Thanks bud.

You're not on the lynch menu currently, so you don't have to prove anything to me today. If we're both around next day I'll try and be better prepared to hash things out.

Boromir88 · 01-30-2011, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

You're not on the lynch menu currently, so you don't have to prove anything to me today. If we're both around next day I'll try and be better prepared to hash things out.

Fair enough.

I should retire, even if I'm not on the "menu" today, I'm not liking where this is heading against Nessa, but can't do anything about that now other than get more grumpy.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 07:54 PM

Boro- why is Nessa under threat and why don't you like it?

People against Nessa- I'd like to hear your versions as well.

Boromir88 · 01-30-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by phantom

Boro- why is Nessa under threat and why don't you like it?

She's got 4 votes already and at least Agan is seriously considering voting her. Don't know where Shasta or others who haven't voted stand.

As to why I don't like it, it looks far to easy as I said in post 459:

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I think Nessa's too easy of a target. Granted, that's what everyone said when she was a wolf previously, that she was getting framed, but then she fueled the idea she was getting framed. I think we tend to forget when you really don't have any information it's difficult to come up with some impeccable shiny-phantom idea. All you can really do is read what's posted, guess at who sounds good to you, which typically looks like you're just sitting back and going with the flow. Going with the flow is not really a solid reason to suspect someone of wolvery, and Glirdan, you shouldn't overlook the times when Nessa has added her own ideas.

and why I didn't like how there were attempts yesterday to get attention and pressure away from Nogrod onto Nessa. Since, I've been highly suspicious of Nog from basically his first post, I don't trust those who have tried to divert the pressure away from him and onto Nessa.

Edit: crossed with Nessa

elronds_daughter · 01-30-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

I have the impression of her as Winnie the Pooh stuck in my head (apologies if this is insulting, but I personally adore Winnie the Pooh)!

Not insulting at all, dear. I think it's a lovely sentiment.

(Though I'm trying not to let my sudden fondness of you colour my objectivity...)

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Originally Posted by the phantom

People against Nessa- I'd like to hear your versions as well.

I concur. I'm not quite understanding why we don't like Nessa. (Do we ever?

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Same for Lommy, please. I don't understand the reasoning behind that one either.

EDIT: x'ed with Boro and tp. Thanks for the concise explanation on Nessa.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daughter

Same for Lommy, please. I don't understand the reasoning behind that one either.

I wish to kill Lommy primarily because of the vibe she gave off with her Day 1 Cobbler pointing/instructions, and it seems to me she's continued to be unable to completely shake off that attitude because (so I think) she's a Wolf and thus finding Cobblers is the only help she can offer. And her comment about how Cobblers would have all sorts of brilliant stuff planned... just the way she said it made me think that it was almost a plea/demand "You'd better have some schemes to help us, Cobblers!"

Plus she's a Penguin.

Mithalwen · 01-30-2011, 08:30 PM

For me, well she isn't as I remember her being when innocent but since that feelingy stuff isn't helpful to third party, it always rings alarm bells when people stay stuff which patently isn't true. It isn't plausible that she could have read Shasta's post 411 thoroughly and not been aware of the dead starting to vote. If she had read it and been a suprised innocent then surely she would have checked the rules. Feigning ignorance of the situation is a wolf tactic I ahve encountered before I find it really suspicious, Trying to make it some kind of personal attack is simply evading the issue.

I just can't believe she is on the side of the angels and if a baddie I would say wolf because the cobblers would need Shasta's info for their own ends. The wolves already know who is a wolf,

Glirdan · 01-30-2011, 08:37 PM

Not gonna lie, I did lol a bit at this, but still....

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Originally Posted by phantom

Plus she's a Penguin.

Yes phantom, because pointing that out is going to help your case.

I will try and check or Ms. Vanilwa has made off to.

As for the way the voting is going....I am pretty set on Nessa, but I still see the points that were raised against Lommy. The problem is neither of them are really screaming Wolf to me.

I don't know what to do at this point

Nessa Telrunya · 01-30-2011, 07:55 PM

++Lommy

Because I don't want to die, and she has the closest number of votes. I do, however, feel like the cases against her are quite valid.

EDIT Xed with phantom: I'm just that tricksy, I suppose. Not to mention as grey as paint drying on a wall.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:04 PM

Wow, I guess I didn't realize how few posts Nessa had. I just reread them all.

And my basic impression? Cobblerish. Not Wolvish.

(x-post Boro)

01-30-2011, 07:54 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Boro- why is Nessa under threat and why don't you like it? People against Nessa- I'd like to hear your versions as well. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-30-2011, 08:30 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	For me, well she isn't as I remember her being when innocent but since that feelingy stuff isn't helpful to third party, it always rings alarm bells when people stay stuff which patently isn't true. It isn't plausible that she could have read Shasta's post 411 thoroughly and not been aware of the dead starting to vote. If she had read it and been a suprised innocent then surely she would have checked the rules. Feigning ignorance of the situation is a wolf tactic I ahve encountered before I find it really suspicious, Trying to make it some kind of personal attack is simply evading the issue. I just can't believe she is on the side of the angels and if a baddie I would say wolf because the cobblers would need Shasta's info for their own ends. The wolves already know who is a wolf, __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-30-2011, 07:55 PM	#10
Nessa Telrunya Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: In a paper bag Posts: 396	++Lommy Because I don't want to die, and she has the closest number of votes. I do, however, feel like the cases against her are quite valid. EDIT Xed with phantom: I'm just that tricksy, I suppose. Not to mention as grey as paint drying on a wall. __________________ Joined together wrote our names upon the page Seven times alliance our loyalties we gave

01-30-2011, 08:04 PM	#11
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Wow, I guess I didn't realize how few posts Nessa had. I just reread them all. And my basic impression? Cobblerish. Not Wolvish. (x-post Boro) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.