Game Thread: WW LXXXVI - The Halls of Mandos - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

elronds_daughter · 01-30-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

I have the impression of her as Winnie the Pooh stuck in my head (apologies if this is insulting, but I personally adore Winnie the Pooh)!

Not insulting at all, dear. I think it's a lovely sentiment.

(Though I'm trying not to let my sudden fondness of you colour my objectivity...)

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Originally Posted by the phantom

People against Nessa- I'd like to hear your versions as well.

I concur. I'm not quite understanding why we don't like Nessa. (Do we ever?

)
Same for Lommy, please. I don't understand the reasoning behind that one either.

EDIT: x'ed with Boro and tp. Thanks for the concise explanation on Nessa.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Daughter

Same for Lommy, please. I don't understand the reasoning behind that one either.

I wish to kill Lommy primarily because of the vibe she gave off with her Day 1 Cobbler pointing/instructions, and it seems to me she's continued to be unable to completely shake off that attitude because (so I think) she's a Wolf and thus finding Cobblers is the only help she can offer. And her comment about how Cobblers would have all sorts of brilliant stuff planned... just the way she said it made me think that it was almost a plea/demand "You'd better have some schemes to help us, Cobblers!"

Plus she's a Penguin.

Mithalwen · 01-30-2011, 08:30 PM

For me, well she isn't as I remember her being when innocent but since that feelingy stuff isn't helpful to third party, it always rings alarm bells when people stay stuff which patently isn't true. It isn't plausible that she could have read Shasta's post 411 thoroughly and not been aware of the dead starting to vote. If she had read it and been a suprised innocent then surely she would have checked the rules. Feigning ignorance of the situation is a wolf tactic I ahve encountered before I find it really suspicious, Trying to make it some kind of personal attack is simply evading the issue.

I just can't believe she is on the side of the angels and if a baddie I would say wolf because the cobblers would need Shasta's info for their own ends. The wolves already know who is a wolf,

Glirdan · 01-30-2011, 08:37 PM

Not gonna lie, I did lol a bit at this, but still....

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Originally Posted by phantom

Plus she's a Penguin.

Yes phantom, because pointing that out is going to help your case.

I will try and check or Ms. Vanilwa has made off to.

As for the way the voting is going....I am pretty set on Nessa, but I still see the points that were raised against Lommy. The problem is neither of them are really screaming Wolf to me.

I don't know what to do at this point

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:44 PM

Agan- about your voting system...

You're saying that you'll always check whoever we lynch, and you will give extra votes to us based upon innocence and guilt, correct?

So, if we lynch person X and he is a Wolf, you will give power to the last person on the list, if we lynch person X and he's not a Wolf, you will give power to the first person on the list?

I think it may be helpful for a couple of days anyway, but if we commit to it the Wolves could just bump off people based upon name order so that one of them receives the extra votes each day, or at least so that one of them has a good shot at it. Particularly late in the game that could be dicey, so I'd say we should set a hard line end-date on it.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:47 PM

Mith- who are you speaking of in #508?

(Sorry for being so disorganized today- have unexpected tasks that are dividing my attention here.)

Mithalwen · 01-30-2011, 08:52 PM

Sorry TP I was stating for the benefit of Elrond's Daughter why I was gunning for Lommy.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Glirdan

I will try and check or Ms. Vanilwa has made off to.

Good. Because if this continues I'm going to want to lynch her. It's way too convenient "Oops, I didn't know we started!" and now keeping her head low to stay out of the fights. I don't like that sort of thing.

the phantom · 01-30-2011, 08:55 PM

The Voting:

Nerwen ++ Nessa
Green ++ Lommy
Boro ++ Lommy (2)
Legate ++ Nessa (2)
Lommy ++ Nessa (3)
Sally ++ Nessa (4)
Nessa ++ Lommy (3)
Agan ++ Boro

Glirdan · 01-30-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by phantyphace

Good. Because if this continues I'm going to want to lynch her. It's way too convenient "Oops, I didn't know we started!" and now keeping her head low to stay out of the fights. I don't like that sort of thing.

Okay, I know this is total meta-reasoning, but here goes anyways. I think it would be a total waste to lynch her. For one, I know Wilwa better then she knows herself half the time and I usually can tell whether or not she's got a role. Her absence and lack of....shall we say enthusiasm (and because I know she has a LOT of stuff going on in RL)...leads me to believe in her innocence.

Second, if she does not post or vote two days consecutively, she will end up like BeiGei and getting modfired.

And Agan, I would have to disagree with your post earlier on my anaylsis of her for this reason. A Wolfwa wouldn't be this careless.

EDIT: xed with Nerwen

Nerwen · 01-30-2011, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phantom

Agan- about your voting system...

You're saying that you'll always check whoever we lynch, and you will give extra votes to us based upon innocence and guilt, correct?

So, if we lynch person X and he is a Wolf, you will give power to the last person on the list, if we lynch person X and he's not a Wolf, you will give power to the first person on the list?

I think it may be helpful for a couple of days anyway, but if we commit to it the Wolves could just bump off people based upon name order so that one of them receives the extra votes each day, or at least so that one of them has a good shot at it. Particularly late in the game that could be dicey, so I'd say we should set a hard line end-date on it.

Yes... I can't see any other way of doing it, and yet that system could get derailed so easily (beyond the grave as well). Maybe just use it for one or two Days?

Anyway, Agan, make sure and let us know exactly what you plan to do before toDay's over.

EDIT:X'd since phantom at #513.

01-30-2011, 08:30 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	For me, well she isn't as I remember her being when innocent but since that feelingy stuff isn't helpful to third party, it always rings alarm bells when people stay stuff which patently isn't true. It isn't plausible that she could have read Shasta's post 411 thoroughly and not been aware of the dead starting to vote. If she had read it and been a suprised innocent then surely she would have checked the rules. Feigning ignorance of the situation is a wolf tactic I ahve encountered before I find it really suspicious, Trying to make it some kind of personal attack is simply evading the issue. I just can't believe she is on the side of the angels and if a baddie I would say wolf because the cobblers would need Shasta's info for their own ends. The wolves already know who is a wolf, __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-30-2011, 08:47 PM	#6
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Mith- who are you speaking of in #508? (Sorry for being so disorganized today- have unexpected tasks that are dividing my attention here.) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-30-2011, 08:52 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Sorry TP I was stating for the benefit of Elrond's Daughter why I was gunning for Lommy. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

01-30-2011, 08:55 PM	#9
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	The Voting: Nerwen ++ Nessa Green ++ Lommy Boro ++ Lommy (2) Legate ++ Nessa (2) Lommy ++ Nessa (3) Sally ++ Nessa (4) Nessa ++ Lommy (3) Agan ++ Boro __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

01-30-2011, 08:44 PM	#5
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Agan- about your voting system... You're saying that you'll always check whoever we lynch, and you will give extra votes to us based upon innocence and guilt, correct? So, if we lynch person X and he is a Wolf, you will give power to the last person on the list, if we lynch person X and he's not a Wolf, you will give power to the first person on the list? I think it may be helpful for a couple of days anyway, but if we commit to it the Wolves could just bump off people based upon name order so that one of them receives the extra votes each day, or at least so that one of them has a good shot at it. Particularly late in the game that could be dicey, so I'd say we should set a hard line end-date on it. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.