Ivory in Gondolin

[Alfirin]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I'm not sure about the flora. Haldir, later echoed by Galadriel (or ws it Celeborn?) speak as if they doubt that mallorns grow in Aman. Haldir is understandable, but Galadriel should know for sure, since she grew up there.

Well Frodo does describe Sam's Mallorn (unless I am confused and quoting a line that only appears in the Radio version, not the books) as the only one "West of the mountains or east of the sea (italics mine). which would suggest Mallorns in Valinor or somewhere else in the West. Granted Frodo's knowledge of this is probably inferior to Galadriels (who as you pointed out, would have had some degree of fisthand knowledge (though even she presumably has never seen every single inch of Valinor). But maybe Frodo was privy to some information, maybe Gandalf told him (with his mission fully fulfilled, Gandalf may have no longer been required to hide his origin so scrupulously, admitting to Frodo that he too had seen the Undying Lands might have been OK with Eru.)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Alfirin

Well Frodo does describe Sam's Mallorn (unless I am confused and quoting a line that only appears in the Radio version, not the books) as the only one "West of the mountains or east of the sea (italics mine). which would suggest Mallorns in Valinor or somewhere else in the West. Granted Frodo's knowledge of this is probably inferior to Galadriels (who as you pointed out, would have had some degree of fisthand knowledge (though even she presumably has never seen every single inch of Valinor). But maybe Frodo was privy to some information, maybe Gandalf told him (with his mission fully fulfilled, Gandalf may have no longer been required to hide his origin so scrupulously, admitting to Frodo that he too had seen the Undying Lands might have been OK with Eru.)

According to the UT chapter "A Description of Númenor", mallorns were found in Eressëa, at least. Some seedlings were given to the Númenóreans, who later passed some on to Gil-Galad, who in turn gave them to Galadriel.

[Galin]

Yes it was said that there were mallorn trees in Eressea (and Numenor), although if I recall correctly not specifically mentioned in Eldamar or Aman in general.


'... grew the mighty golden tree malinorne reaching after five centuries a height scarce less than it achieved in Eressea itself. Its fruit was a nut with a silver shale; and some were given as gift by Tar-Aldarion, the sixth King of Númenor, to King Gil-galad of Lindon. They did not take root in that land; but Gil-galad gave some to his kinswoman Galadriel, and under her power they grew and flourished in the guarded land of Lothlórien beside the River Anduin...'

JRRT, Description of Numenor, Unfinished Tales


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