WW LXXXVIII: What Lies in the Dark (Game Thread) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Lhunardawen · 05-05-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Oh really? Well then, perhaps you can help. Would it be better for me to lynch you today, or wait a day or two?

I don't know about you, but it would be better if I do not get lynched toDay, or after a day or two. Or at all, for that matter.

Alas, it is late (read: past 2 AM) and so I must vote.

++Loslote

Although I don't believe we've played together before. Luck o' the draw.

Inziladun · 05-05-2011, 12:41 PM

Ok, it's crunch time. Got to leave for the next couple or hours. I'm not crazy about voting for the two who already have votes. Sooo....

++Boro

Just because he's been strangely quiet and I'm getting even less of a read on him than usual. Really, that's all I've got.

Choose well, folks.

Boromir88 · 05-05-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

++Boro

Just because he's been strangely quiet and I'm getting even less of a read on him than usual. Really, that's all I've got.

I always like to do the unexpected, it takes people by surprise.

I'm keeping tabs, just got nothing groundbreakingly brilliant to say, and don't particularly feel like making up stuff that will only add to the page count.

Edit: removing the highlight so it doesn't confuse Ms. Sally.

Bom Tombadillo · 05-05-2011, 01:21 PM

In light of my forgetting to vote earlier, I'm taking just an eetsy-beetsy second off of what I'm supposed to be doing (you won't tell, will you?):

++Lhunardawen

This may be the pervasive influence of the phantom, but she is acting a bit odd. Although that may be normal, since I can't recall what she's acted like in any of the games I've read . . .

satansaloser2005 · 05-05-2011, 01:24 PM

*cough* Highlight your vote. *cough*

Same way you tag bolding, except put highlight instead of b.

Boromir88 · 05-05-2011, 01:46 PM

Moderately suspect voting so far.

Wilwa goes for Glirdan because if he doesn't look crazy suspicious yet he will. Although, she says she doesn't have any suspicions at the most...if she has to make a vote with bad reasoning she probably would feel most comfortable voting for Glirdan. Because it is Glirdy, and everyone does it.

Lhuna appears to have drawn Lottie's name out hat. Her voting suggests she doesn't care, but her posting says she doesn't want to be lynched yet. Can't blame her, first time back in a while, hate to make a quick exit.

Inzil based on me being more quiet than usual. Fairy nuff for a Day 1 vote, when I'm having just as difficult of a time deciding.

Bom's looks decent enough too, since it's actually based on what Lhuna's done in the present, and not skewed by past, subjective experiences.

the phantom · 05-05-2011, 02:10 PM

The voting to this point-

Wilwa ++ Glirdan
Lhuna ++ Lottie
Inzil ++ Boro
Bom ++ Lhuna

Still to vote-

Nienna
Lottie
Nog
Nerwen
Glirdy
Boro
Phantom
Shasta
Fea

Nogrod · 05-05-2011, 02:26 PM

Skimming through the thread for any hints...

The way Lottie and Glirdy rant in the beginning looks a bit odd but could just be an inside-joke I just didn't understand. If they are shelob and the stinged though... well it's surely possible if not exactly wise in a game where Shelob needs to stay alive and can do it easily not making mistakes.

The most careful ones? Nerwen, Inzil, Boro? Or the one just making a joke-list? Shasta of course (why I always end up suspecting you?)

I'm not voting for Lhuna for obvious reasons, toDay.

Neither will I vote for Bom T. I have never played with her/him (or at least I don't remember doing that - and s/he seems to do some pretty decent work, if not too much of it).

Also I don't think Fea is Shelob as all this playing around Laura12345 (or whatever) probably means she's not The Baddie.

tp I have no reason to believe is Shelob either. He "forgot" to mention that he does other things than just reveal and false-reveal in games, and I think he has been up to a few nice ones thus far.

Okay. Needs to draw a list now to help my mind. Where are you others?

Heh... call one and get one...

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Originally Posted by Boro

But, it's not really the amount of posts it's just been...boring today.

Exactly!

Nogrod · 05-05-2011, 01:34 PM

Seventy posts with less than two hours to the deadline? That's all we can manage? (okay, I admit I'm one to blame myself but I'm only one of thirteen) No rows between people, no one hurt, no nothing to raise an eybrow?

What I said about Shelob's wishes to stay low as she is alone...

Two quick ones to begin with.

Nerwen: Not quite the traditional "loud-quiet" -discussion as this game is different (there is no team so the lonely spider could much more easily just hunker down - especially looking at the way this game is coming forwards quite lazily).

But what you say about the tspider is just the reason I added that everyone will of course play by their styles - or what I meant more exactly; that a spider wouldn't deviate from her "normal playing style" in a too obvious way, which makes my point a bit less attractive, but still valid, I think.

Referring to tp's count, we basically have two to three Days to bag at least one baddie / get someone saved. So let's not take even this D1 lightly even it looks like there's not much to say or base your vote on.

Btw. If Shelob dies but has already spawned, let's say two spiderlings to maturity, will killing of Shelob end the game or can the two still win together? There is this rule that if Shelob is killed before she has a minion the first stinged will turn into a new Shelob, but how about the situation where there are two or three spiders and Shelob dies?

Nogrod · 05-05-2011, 01:39 PM

There was actually a quite straightforward answer to my question in the rules...

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Originally Posted by teh rulez

The game ends with a village victory when Shelob is slain. Upon that time, the effect on the children will wear off and they will revert to their current form (though possibly with some extra limbs or teeth).

So basically we are only after one player in here.

satansaloser2005 · 05-05-2011, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Btw. If Shelob dies but has already spawned, let's say two spiderlings to maturity, will killing of Shelob end the game or can the two still win together? There is this rule that if Shelob is killed before she has a minion the first stinged will turn into a new Shelob, but how about the situation where there are two or three spiders and Shelob dies?

Straight up answer. If Shelob is not lynched toDay or toMorrow, she will just die. ToDay or toMorrow, however, I will be cross that you all ended the game so early and will upgrade the primary spawn (if there is more than one, I will roll it off) to Shelob: the Sequel.

Also, one of you is feeling rather ill at the moment. You have my sympathy (but not my tasty corpse, at least not yet).

EDIT: x'd with....myself? Sort of?

Boromir88 · 05-05-2011, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Seventy posts with less than two hours to the deadline? That's all we can manage? (okay, I admit I'm one to blame myself but I'm only one of thirteen) No rows between people, no one hurt, no nothing to raise an eybrow?

Usually I think you jump on the slow activity too early, and also considering the size (and generally busy-ish schedules of many of us), I wouldn't be expecting a lot of posts. But, it's not really the amount of posts it's just been...boring today. Blue and boring. Blue...boringas?

the phantom · 05-05-2011, 02:28 PM

Ooo!! Ooo!! I may actually have a meaningful post to make!

It will be up soon. Gimme two minutes...

satansaloser2005 · 05-05-2011, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Ooo!! Ooo!! I may actually have a meaningful post to make!

It will be up soon. Gimme two minutes...

Interesting.

(Relevant bit's at ~1:15.)

the phantom · 05-05-2011, 12:44 PM

Just doing some quick number crunching here. We have 13 players, and currently we have 1 Shelob, 0 Spiderlings, 1 Stung, and 11 Innocents. So, let's see how many failed attempts we can afford.

DAY 1: 1-0-1-11
DAY 2: 1-1-1-9
DAY 3: 1-2-1-7
DAY 4: 1-3-1-5
DAY 5: 1-4-1-3 *game over*

So, four bad lynches gets us dead. And given the odds on Day 4 I'd say realistically three bad lynches in a row nearly kills us.

A successful protection from Sam would keep us alive on Day 5, but the numbers would be 4-5, so all of the Innocents would have to vote correctly and together.

If Sam gets both a protection and a cure we would still be alive on Day 6, but with dead even numbers we'd be as good as dead.

A successful Spiderling lynch would also keep us alive on Day 5, but again it would be tough sledding. A Spiderling lynch paired with a Sam save would again give us a longshot miracle hope for Day 6 but that's about it.

Now, if we manage to get THREE breaks to go our way (Spiderling lynches or Sam protections) then that would give us an actual chance on Day 6.

To summarize- if we kill Sam it seems to me that we're screwed. Because really, we cannot expect to be able to lynch Spiderlings with any regularity given the fact that they are not a true pack and do not have a dependable history to examine.

the phantom · 05-05-2011, 12:49 PM

So, first Lhuna looks suspicious in her first post, and then she tries to appease me, and then she goes and votes for one of the two people I declared innocent forever (Lottie).

You're just begging for my attention, m'dear.

satansaloser2005 · 05-05-2011, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

To summarize- if we kill Sam it seems to me that we're screwed.

So don't lynch Sam then. Really, it's very simple.

What do you mean you don't all know who he is? I do! Oh. Right....

the phantom · 05-05-2011, 12:56 PM

It seems the Mod is determined to have the highest post count.

(You know, even I don't do that in my games, and I'm as chatty as anyone. I'm thinking Sally must be terribly bored today.)

satansaloser2005 · 05-05-2011, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'm thinking Sally must be terribly bored today.

How did you know?

Nogrod · 05-05-2011, 12:57 PM

Back and reading...

After finishing my jobs I decided to install my new audio software before turning into this - and it took ages with all the different "activations", "registrations", "USB-licenses" and whatnots. Cryptical things. And it doesn't even work yet...

Anyway, I'll be around now for most of the time, first reading.

05-05-2011, 12:41 PM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Ok, it's crunch time. Got to leave for the next couple or hours. I'm not crazy about voting for the two who already have votes. Sooo.... ++Boro Just because he's been strangely quiet and I'm getting even less of a read on him than usual. Really, that's all I've got. Choose well, folks. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

05-05-2011, 01:21 PM	#4
Bom Tombadillo Wight Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Behind you . . . . BOO! Posts: 222	In light of my forgetting to vote earlier, I'm taking just an eetsy-beetsy second off of what I'm supposed to be doing (you won't tell, will you?): ++Lhunardawen This may be the pervasive influence of the phantom, but she is acting a bit odd. Although that may be normal, since I can't recall what she's acted like in any of the games I've read . . . __________________ Every human should have a cat or two in their care, to teach them the meaning of the word, and to correct them. Phenris Dorph

05-05-2011, 01:24 PM	#5
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	cough Highlight your vote. cough Same way you tag bolding, except put highlight instead of b. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-05-2011, 01:46 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Moderately suspect voting so far. Wilwa goes for Glirdan because if he doesn't look crazy suspicious yet he will. Although, she says she doesn't have any suspicions at the most...if she has to make a vote with bad reasoning she probably would feel most comfortable voting for Glirdan. Because it is Glirdy, and everyone does it. Lhuna appears to have drawn Lottie's name out hat. Her voting suggests she doesn't care, but her posting says she doesn't want to be lynched yet. Can't blame her, first time back in a while, hate to make a quick exit. Inzil based on me being more quiet than usual. Fairy nuff for a Day 1 vote, when I'm having just as difficult of a time deciding. Bom's looks decent enough too, since it's actually based on what Lhuna's done in the present, and not skewed by past, subjective experiences. __________________ Fenris Penguin

05-05-2011, 02:10 PM	#7
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	The voting to this point- Wilwa ++ Glirdan Lhuna ++ Lottie Inzil ++ Boro Bom ++ Lhuna Still to vote- Nienna Lottie Nog Nerwen Glirdy Boro Phantom Shasta Fea __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-05-2011, 01:34 PM	#9
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Seventy posts with less than two hours to the deadline? That's all we can manage? (okay, I admit I'm one to blame myself but I'm only one of thirteen) No rows between people, no one hurt, no nothing to raise an eybrow? What I said about Shelob's wishes to stay low as she is alone... Two quick ones to begin with. Nerwen: Not quite the traditional "loud-quiet" -discussion as this game is different (there is no team so the lonely spider could much more easily just hunker down - especially looking at the way this game is coming forwards quite lazily). But what you say about the tspider is just the reason I added that everyone will of course play by their styles - or what I meant more exactly; that a spider wouldn't deviate from her "normal playing style" in a too obvious way, which makes my point a bit less attractive, but still valid, I think. Referring to tp's count, we basically have two to three Days to bag at least one baddie / get someone saved. So let's not take even this D1 lightly even it looks like there's not much to say or base your vote on. Btw. If Shelob dies but has already spawned, let's say two spiderlings to maturity, will killing of Shelob end the game or can the two still win together? There is this rule that if Shelob is killed before she has a minion the first stinged will turn into a new Shelob, but how about the situation where there are two or three spiders and Shelob dies? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-05-2011, 02:28 PM	#13
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Ooo!! Ooo!! I may actually have a meaningful post to make! It will be up soon. Gimme two minutes... __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-05-2011, 12:44 PM	#15
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Just doing some quick number crunching here. We have 13 players, and currently we have 1 Shelob, 0 Spiderlings, 1 Stung, and 11 Innocents. So, let's see how many failed attempts we can afford. DAY 1: 1-0-1-11 DAY 2: 1-1-1-9 DAY 3: 1-2-1-7 DAY 4: 1-3-1-5 DAY 5: 1-4-1-3 game over So, four bad lynches gets us dead. And given the odds on Day 4 I'd say realistically three bad lynches in a row nearly kills us. A successful protection from Sam would keep us alive on Day 5, but the numbers would be 4-5, so all of the Innocents would have to vote correctly and together. If Sam gets both a protection and a cure we would still be alive on Day 6, but with dead even numbers we'd be as good as dead. A successful Spiderling lynch would also keep us alive on Day 5, but again it would be tough sledding. A Spiderling lynch paired with a Sam save would again give us a longshot miracle hope for Day 6 but that's about it. Now, if we manage to get THREE breaks to go our way (Spiderling lynches or Sam protections) then that would give us an actual chance on Day 6. To summarize- if we kill Sam it seems to me that we're screwed. Because really, we cannot expect to be able to lynch Spiderlings with any regularity given the fact that they are not a true pack and do not have a dependable history to examine. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-05-2011, 12:49 PM	#16
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	So, first Lhuna looks suspicious in her first post, and then she tries to appease me, and then she goes and votes for one of the two people I declared innocent forever (Lottie). You're just begging for my attention, m'dear. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-05-2011, 12:56 PM	#18
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	It seems the Mod is determined to have the highest post count. (You know, even I don't do that in my games, and I'm as chatty as anyone. I'm thinking Sally must be terribly bored today.) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

05-05-2011, 12:57 PM	#20
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Back and reading... After finishing my jobs I decided to install my new audio software before turning into this - and it took ages with all the different "activations", "registrations", "USB-licenses" and whatnots. Cryptical things. And it doesn't even work yet... Anyway, I'll be around now for most of the time, first reading. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...