WW LXXXVIII: What Lies in the Dark (Game Thread) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 05-11-2011, 08:51 AM

Finally got home but need to rush in ten minutes to the choir rehersals. So the theory of mine some of you have been wondering in a nutshell. I think you should consider it.

There was one person who as a lonely one didn't like the idea we thought Lhuna okay. If xe was Sam xe would know Sam didn't protect or heal Lhuna and thus be against the common view.

Secondly. There was a clarification of the ruling as to what happens when doctor is attacked. I wondered whether Shelob had asked that from Sally as I didn't see anyone asking it on the thread. Then there was also this slip by Lhuna who seconded Nerwen's suspicion on tp but talked of Doc and not Sam. Well, I thought, keeping many faces is hard and if she had been specially bothered about issues concerning the role of the Doc that would be an understandable error.

If I'm right about this, then I'd think that tp is on the good side as then Lhuna had tried to roll the ball forwards to get him lynched seeing that someone had suspected him already.

Okay. need to run now. Back in about 2½ hours before the DL.

Nerwen · 05-11-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Finally got home but need to rush in ten minutes to the choir rehersals. So the theory of mine some of you have been wondering in a nutshell. I think you should consider it.

There was one person who as a lonely one didn't like the idea we thought Lhuna okay. If xe was Sam xe would know Sam didn't protect or heal Lhuna and thus be against the common view.

Secondly. There was a clarification of the ruling as to what happens when doctor is attacked. I wondered whether Shelob had asked that from Sally as I didn't see anyone asking it on the thread. Then there was also this slip by Lhuna who seconded Nerwen's suspicion on tp but talked of Doc and not Sam. Well, I thought, keeping many faces is hard and if she had been specially bothered about issues concerning the role of the Doc that would be an understandable error.

Okay... I guess that does make some sense– more than the way you put it at the time of voting, anyway.

All the same, this game is so darned confusing, it's not that surprising someone would get the roles mixed up.

Lhunardawen · 05-11-2011, 10:20 AM

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All the same, this game is so darned confusing, it's not that surprising someone would get the roles mixed up.

Hear, hear.

For the sake of posterity, I would not be opposed to seeing Nogrod, Lottie, or Shasta lynched toDay. the phantom is a bigger enigma to me than I probably am to some of you, but I'm okay with keeping him alive for one more Day. I want to see more of wilwa. Zil and Nerwen I'm inclined to trust, but if you turn out to be baddies I shall... probably be very mad at myself. I've already decided that Fea's not worth lynching - which I hope Shelob has not used/does not use to her advantage by trying to turn her.

Nerwen · 05-11-2011, 10:41 AM

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I've already decided that Fea's not worth lynching - which I hope Shelob has not used/does not use to her advantage by trying to turn her.

Hmmn. Not sure I like this "Fea is just too ZANY to be evil" meme that's been going around.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-11-2011, 10:50 AM

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Hmmn. Not sure I like this "Fea is just too ZANY to be evil" meme that's been going around.

I think it's more Fea tends to be this disinterested when she's an ordo, but I agree with the underlying thought.

I've read all of this page (since it was the only new page since the last time I posted) and the thing that jumped out at me the most was Wilwa mentioning that there's only one spiderling. I'm pretty sure there's two now (beginning 'ling plus one being stung) so I'm curious as to why Wilwa would try and spin the narration that way.

Also, I'm okay with lynching Phantom (but then I'm always okay with lynching Phantom).

wilwarin538 · 05-11-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I've read all of this page (since it was the only new page since the last time I posted) and the thing that jumped out at me the most was Wilwa mentioning that there's only one spiderling. I'm pretty sure there's two now (beginning 'ling plus one being stung) so I'm curious as to why Wilwa would try and spin the narration that way.

The narration makes it sound like there's only one. So I'm assuming Sam saved one of the two who were stung. I actually still think Boro was the one who was stung at the beginning (cause the Doc could still be stung, right?) and that he is the one Sam cured, and that the current spiderling was stung on Night 3, and therefore toDay is it's first Day as a baddie. Of course it's possible we have 2 spiderlings, but just going off the narration toDay it sounds like there's only 1.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-11-2011, 11:01 AM

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The narration makes it sound like there's only one. So I'm assuming Sam saved one of the two who were stung. I actually still think Boro was the one who was stung at the beginning (cause the Doc could still be stung, right?) and that he is the one Sam cured, and that the current spiderling was stung on Night 3, and therefore toDay is it's first Day as a baddie. Of course it's possible we have 2 spiderlings, but just going off the narration toDay it sounds like there's only 1.

Wouldn't the narration have mentioned if Sam had made a save? I don't think the narration today sounds like one spiderling at all, to be honest (we're talking about the one with "you're not alone" or something to that effect, yes?).

Loslote · 05-11-2011, 11:24 AM

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I actually still think Boro was the one who was stung at the beginning (cause the Doc could still be stung, right?) and that he is the one Sam cured, and that the current spiderling was stung on Night 3, and therefore toDay is it's first Day as a baddie. Of course it's possible we have 2 spiderlings, but just going off the narration toDay it sounds like there's only 1.

The Doctor could have been stung, yeah, but I don't think Miss Sally Moddess would have given us a Stung Doctor to start out with. Didn't Shelob give Sally a short list of names, and Sally picked one to be the first Stung? If she had a choice, I'd guess that Sally make someone who otherwise would have been an ordo be the first Stung, not the Doctor.

But that doesn't change the fact that Boro could well have been high on Shelob's list of people to sting. And, since Sam didn't know that he was the Doctor, it's likely Sam would have tried to cure Boro anyway because of the likelihood Shelob would have chosen him as a Spiderling. In which case, we likely do have two Spiderlings, from Night One and Night Three.

Lhunardawen · 05-11-2011, 11:04 AM

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I think it's more Fea tends to be this disinterested when she's an ordo, but I agree with the underlying thought.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Let's see...

Night 1: Shelob stung someone.
Day 1: 1 stung
Night 2: Shelob was not able to sting.
Day 2: 1 spiderling (from Night 1)
Night 3: Shelob stung someone.
Day 3: 1 spiderling, 1 stung
Night 4: Frodo was stung.
Day 4: 2 spiderlings, 1 soon-to-be-dead Frodo

Did I get it right?

Perhaps the conversation in the narration meant that Shelob did not disclose the identity of the spiderlings to each other, which is why one thought it was alone?

05-11-2011, 08:51 AM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Finally got home but need to rush in ten minutes to the choir rehersals. So the theory of mine some of you have been wondering in a nutshell. I think you should consider it. There was one person who as a lonely one didn't like the idea we thought Lhuna okay. If xe was Sam xe would know Sam didn't protect or heal Lhuna and thus be against the common view. Secondly. There was a clarification of the ruling as to what happens when doctor is attacked. I wondered whether Shelob had asked that from Sally as I didn't see anyone asking it on the thread. Then there was also this slip by Lhuna who seconded Nerwen's suspicion on tp but talked of Doc and not Sam. Well, I thought, keeping many faces is hard and if she had been specially bothered about issues concerning the role of the Doc that would be an understandable error. If I'm right about this, then I'd think that tp is on the good side as then Lhuna had tried to roll the ball forwards to get him lynched seeing that someone had suspected him already. Okay. need to run now. Back in about 2½ hours before the DL. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...