Hobbit movie progressing

[TheMisfortuneTeller]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Itaril - double no!

A separate thread already exists for disparaging -- and dispensing with -- this dreadfully stupid fan-fiction abomination. And since the teenage actress most mentioned for the role has publicly announced that she will not take part in The Hobbit movies, then perhaps we have mercifully escaped the execrable ...

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Legolas - possssssibly

As for Legolas, Tolkien first mentions him at "The Council of Elrond" (Book II, Chapter Two of The Fellowship of the Ring):

"[Elrond] then pointed out and named those whom Frodo had not met before. There was a younger dwarf at Glóin's side: his son Gimli. ... There was also a strange Elf clad in green and brown, Legolas, a messenger from his father, Thranduil, the King of the Elves in Northern Mirkwood."

Legolas -- although non-existent as a character in The Hobbit -- first has a role to play in The Lord of the Rings by bringing up some unwelcome news:

"Alas! alas!" cried Legolas, and in his fair elvish face there was great distress. "The tidings that I was sent to bring must now be told. They are not good, but only here have I learned how evil they may seem to this company. Sméagol, who is now called Gollum, has escaped."

"Escaped?" cried Aragorn. "That is ill news indeed. We shall all rue it bitterly, I fear. How came the folk of Thranduil to fail in their trust?"

"Not through lack of watchfulness," said Legolas; "but perhaps through over-kindliness. And we fear that the prisoner had aid from others, and that more is known of our doings than we could wish. We guarded this creature day and night, at Gandalf's bidding, much though we wearied of the task. But Gandalf made us hope still for his cure, and we had not the heart to keep him ever in dungeons under the earth, where he would fall back into his old black thoughts."

"You were less tender to me," said Glóin with a flash in his eyes, as old memories were stirred of his imprisonment in the deep places of the Elven king's halls."

Now, if Peter Jackson seizes upon Tolkien's use of the pronoun "you" (in the singular) as meaning Legolas personally and not just the Mirkwood Elves in general, then Gimli's father Glóin could have had dealings with Prince Legolas previously, say, in getting arrested in Mirkwood Forest for the crime of disturbing the elves at their merry-making. Thin. Pretty damn thin, but some Elf has to bag the dwarves in the forest and haul them before King Thranduil and then off to their dungeon cells. Why not Prince Legolas himself? Thus, Peter Jackson could imaginatively claim that Tolkien did, after all, use the word "you" in reference to Legolas in The Fellowship and that therefore, extrapolating backwards to The Hobbit film, Orlando Bloom can have something to do in the movie -- aside from the wind-up fan-boy Orc slashing thing, of course.

Just saying ...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by TheMisfortuneTeller

Now, if Peter Jackson seizes upon Tolkien's use of the pronoun "you" (in the singular) as meaning Legolas personally and not just the Mirkwood Elves in general, then Gimli's father Glóin could have had dealings with Prince Legolas previously, say, in getting arrested in Mirkwood Forest for the crime of disturbing the elves at their merry-making. Thin. Pretty damn thin, but some Elf has to bag the dwarves in the forest and haul them before King Thranduil and then off to their dungeon cells. Why not Prince Legolas himself?

What? Have Legolas do the dirty work? No, I think he'll gallantly lead the Elf-warriors into battle!

[Lalaith]

Freeman as Bilbo at Bag End, dwarves in the background

[Inziladun]

He just doesn't look very Hobbit-like to me. Where's the abdominal fat? And what's with the "Dwarf-pattern baldness" in the first pic?

[Tuor in Gondolin]

Seems not stout and aged enough for a middle-aged petit bourgois
gentlehobbit.

But I see PJ probably got ahold of a picture of the postcard that inspired
JRRT about Galdalf.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

He just doesn't look very Hobbit-like to me. Where's the abdominal fat? And what's with the "Dwarf-pattern baldness" in the first pic?

Don't remember Elijah Wood having a lot of that in the LOTR films... the feet look insanely big

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Don't remember Elijah Wood having a lot of that in the LOTR films...

True. At least the inconsistency is consistent.

[narfforc]

I've just read in Empire magazine that Jackson will be filming Gandalf AND Elrond scouting the dungeons of Dol Guldur......I always thought it was Gandalf alone who did this.....can anyone shed any light on where he got that from. Gandalf finds Thrain in the dungeons and is given the map and key....the first time Elrond sees this map is when they stay at Rivendell so Elrond can't have been on that trip....the only thing I can think of is maybe prior to the White Council attack?