WW LXXXIX: The Terror of Tol Fuin

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

There is rather a lot of flip-flopping and not really saying much in the end. "The person seems fine to me" or "I don't know, maybe it is nothing" is rather Wolf-y stuff, as in, "I am not the one who lynched you" (or alternatively, "I won't lynch my packmates, but I won't speak too loud for their defence either, lest I be judged myself").

Quite the opposite. I may not agree with everything he says, but I don't think he's guilty, and I said almost exactly that.

You're twisting my words so hard I think a few vertebrae have popped.


EDIT: Leaving in a few ticks. This'll probably be the last post from me for a little while.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Quite the opposite. I may not agree with everything he says, but I don't think he's guilty, and I said almost exactly that.

You're twisting my words so hard I think a few vertebrae have popped.

Nope, I don't see anything like that. I was speaking generally, and the stuff about "not lynched you" was referring more to what you said about voting G55 at that point than about Eomer. With Eomer, it was more like this "this person seems fine"-thing.

Now, going to decide whom I want to vote...

EDIT: again x-ed since my last.

[Mithalwen]

I have votes for Sally (Kit) Bom (Greenie) and Galadriel (Eomer) ? Sally had seemed most suspicious so far I am not sure if the marked change is a sign of wronged innocence getting a grip or a desperate wolf. But I am obliged to look at Lottie (on my read the rules rule ) And now time really is pressing.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Thinking about Sally while I was gone - based on reading her feel and not content, Sally reads more innocent than baddie to me. As a wolf I've seen her get steadily and steadily more... not "hysterical", but more "flail-y" in a sense that she'll be more and more sarcastic and dismissive of points against her as time goes on. I've seen a little of that from her today, but she strikes me as calmer than a wolf-Sally under pressure would be.

Based on content... I think I need to see more actual thought from Sally-dear, rather than fishing expeditions, before I decide. I don't think I'll be voting for her today.

I could vote for Kitanna, as she's really the one I tend to feel the worst about, but she seems to have no support as a lynch toDay and would thus be a throwaway. I don't want to vote Bom as the action that's got people so riled up about him has been his only action all Day - and on participation grounds wouldn't mind lynching him, but I think I'd rather see if he shapes up tomorrow.

I do need to vote soon (within the next fifteen minutes), however, and so I think I'm going to go look at Lottie.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Generally dividing people to groups by the level of suspicion - i.e. how much suspicious they seem to me:

Red zone:
Sally
Loslote

Orange zone:
Bom Tom
Kitanna

Yellow zone:
G55
Eomer
Lommy

Green zone:
Nogrod
Shasta
Mith

Grey zone - not enough data:
Nerwen
Greenie
Nilp

I shall be picking my votes probably from the red zone. However, I am sending a sharp rebuke to the people in the grey zone. I really would like to see them posting something substantial, otherwise, I might just as well have them in my target field just for the sake of being avoidant.

[Galadriel55]

Bom Tombadillo - spread suspicion and then disappeared. I wish he would post a bit more, and at least react somehow.
Nogrod - I need to reread his posts, as I'm having a hard time understanding some of his arguments. So far so good for the vibes.
Shasta - makes some good points (even though I don't agree with everything he says)
Kitanna - suspects Bom for suspecting Saly, but suspects Sally herself. First is inclined to vote for Bom, but changes her mind and votes Sally. Interesting (I'm not sure if it's in a good or a bad way...)
Sally - looks innocentish, but you've probably heard enough of that from me.
Eomer - no impression. Popped in to make a couple comments and to vote me.
Nerwen - as has been said before, guarded and careful. Too quiet. No impression.
Loslote - didn't say too many things either. No impression. A bit weird that she has nothing to say.
Greenie - doesn't think of Bom as very suspicious, yet vote for him. Also interesting.
Lommy - also not too many posts. Didn't comment a lot.
Nilp - where are you?
Legate - suspects Sally because I called her an innocent. Otherwise, looks good.
Mith avoided all the me-bom-kit-sally tangle. Didn't take sides. Didn't commit herself to anything. Made some fair points, but stayed aside.

So that's some opinionophobia from me.

Bom, Eomer, and Nerwen posted too little for me to get a descent impression. Nilp didn't post anything of [worthwhile] content. That is too many players fo less than an hour before DL!!!

Edit: xed since my last

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Lottie-lysis
Her first four posts were banter, so I didn't bother with them.

#87 - Does not want to lynch Sally "at all", Bom, mentions a tiny suspicion of Gala ("her posts hit me over the head a little like a baby fish"), didn't realize Kit was playing.

#99 - Mentions her hunch on Gala again, and complains it's been quiet. Eomer votes for Gala at the same time (4:41), but there's no mention of cross-posting.

#106 - Explains her suspicion of Gala. I think it's rather funny she says this -

Originally Posted by Lottie

I don't know, I might be wrong on this one, but that's what it looks like to me.

- when combined with what Legate says here -

Originally Posted by Legate

"The person seems fine to me" or "I don't know, maybe it is nothing" is rather Wolf-y stuff, as in, "I am not the one who lynched you" (or alternatively, "I won't lynch my packmates, but I won't speak too loud for their defence either, lest I be judged myself").

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#131 - Although Lottie has said several times that she "gives Gala a newbie-pass" and "will feel bad if she's lynched her first Day 1 ever", here she continues to build her suspicion of Gala.


Conclusion - Lottie has set herself up today so that really the only person she can vote is Gala (she hasn't evidenced suspicion on anyone else); which, when combined with all that about "oh I'll feel so bad if she's lynched" and giving her a newbie-pass, really makes me raise both eyebrows. Lottie looks extremely contradictory.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Lottie

See above for reasons.

Shasta, out.

[Thinlómien]

Mmh. Tempted to follow Shasta's lead. He definitely didn't make Lottie sound too good.

Will be back in 15min and concentrate more or less until the deadline. Promise!

[Galadriel55]

Votes:
Sally (Kit)
G55 (Eomer)
Bom (Greenie)
Lottie (Shasta)

[satansaloser2005]

Vote count:

Kit-->Sally
Eomer-->Galadriel
Greenie-->Bom
Shasta-->Lottie

Left to vote:
Bom
Nog
Galadriel
Sally
Nerwen
Lottie
Lommie
Nilp (though I doubt we'll be surprised )
Mith
Legate


X'd with the Lad lass and Lottie....oops

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

[#131 - Although Lottie has said several times that she "gives Gala a newbie-pass" and "will feel bad if she's lynched her first Day 1 ever", here she continues to build her suspicion of Gala.

I do feel bad about it. But newbie passes are fickle things, and if I don't see anyone else who jumps out as suspicious, I've got to follow up on the one person I do suspect.

Edit: Xed with Galadriel's vote count