Hobbit movie progressing

[Galadriel]

Odd I didn't mention this before, but wouldn't it be funny if PJ actually gave the Dwarves blue and yellow beards - the way Tolkien described them?

[oddkins]

TORn gets world exclusive reveal on first picture of Thorin Oakenshield (and Goblin- cleaver Orcrist!)
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011...d-and-orcrist/

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by oddkins

TORn gets world exclusive reveal on first picture of Thorin Oakshield (and Goblin- cleaver Orcrist!)
http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011...d-and-orcrist/

Looks like Robert Downey Jr's Battlefield Earth audition.

Ugh.

Thorin looks like everything that's wrong with PJ's interpretation of Tolkien's work.

I'm afraid we won't get a cinematic adaption of The Hobbit, which is basically a book for children, but nonetheless has some more subtle, tender ideas and messages which can be moving for adults as well. (Just read the deathbed scene at the end of the novel).

Instead, judging by our previous experiences with Jackson, we will get a nauseating blend of angsty fanfiction, various scenes from other works of Tolkien which just don't belong in The Hobbit (and just don't provide enough material for a fleshed-out narrative - any scenes about the White Council will need completely new dialogues, and we all know how good the PJ team is in that department ), as well as an inappropriate emphasis on the martial aspects of the plot. (PJ's dwarves just don't look like they're about to go on a journey where weapons are only of secondary importance.)

Basically, we'll get a gritty reboot, and the ridiculous images of Thorin, Dwalin and especially Kili prove this in my opinion.

By the way, is there a piece of a hammer sticking in Bifur's head?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...nthebrain.jpg/

[LadyBrooke]

Hi! Welcome to the site. Did you find it while looking for a place to vent about PJ's movies, and not be accused of being several unflattering terms (I got called a B**** the other day on another site....it was rather funny. ) If so, you're in the right place.

As far as your final question goes....yes. And I have no idea why. Idiotic costume design...come on, I know Middle-Earth wasn't exactly modern day medical techniques, but I'm pretty sure leaving hammers in somebody's head sounded like a bad idea say, the day after the elves awoke.

[Tuor in Gondolin]

from what I've seen on ToRN the Dwarves look far too harsh,
unlike The Hobbit Thorin & Co. How they could ever work with
the slapstick comedy of surprising Bilbo (and then Beorn) stretches
credulity.

And that's a good point about dialogue needed in the White Council.

This again is an example of CT's extremism in non-cooperation with PJ
has hurt the movies (he could have, both through general influence and in
rewrites, have ameliorated some of the worst aspects of PJ's films,
while bolstering his strenghts---particularly cinematography).

[LadyBrooke]

Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin

This again is an example of CT's extremism in non-cooperation with PJ has hurt the movies (he could have, both through general influence and in rewrites, have ameliorated some of the worst aspects of PJ's films,
while bolstering his strenghts---particularly cinematography).

Yes, if CT had wanted to, he probably could have had great influence over the films, and stopped some of the idiotic decisions. One of the reasons* - and I'm pretty sure everybody knows I'm a huge fan of them by now - that I like both McKellen and Lee is that they are fans of the books and not just actors reading the script. I believe that somewhere on one of the EE discs, PJ mentions McKellen mentioning to him when things got too far from the book (and if that's true, I shudder to think what kind of movie we would have had without him.).

Edited to add: Just started reading McKellen's Hobbit blog. Apparently, Gandalf's silver scarf and black boots are part of the costume.

*You all would be here all day if I listed all the reasons. They're just cool men.