The Silmarillion in one word - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Galadriel55 · 08-04-2011, 08:31 AM

In that case, we will just have to disagree.

I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT.

Nerwen · 08-04-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

In that case, we will just have to disagree.

I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT.

I think this guy's just trolling, G55– see his post on the "Why is it so difficult" thread.

FlimFlamSam · 08-04-2011, 09:56 AM

Galadriel55 spoke: [In that case, we will just have to disagree]
Yeppers.

Nice summation of the exisitng words used in the thread so far.
Good work.

Nerwen spoke: [I think this guy's just trolling.]
Yeah... No--that's not it.

Nerwen · 08-05-2011, 06:39 AM

FlimFlam–

You do know that just saying you're not a troll by this stage carries about as much weight as insisting that a violet-eyed half-Elf fan-fic heroine is "not a Mary Sue"?

Narnangol · 08-09-2011, 11:25 AM

I would like to add WISTFUL.

I agree with everyone who said it was nostalgic or regretful in some way. The gradual diminishing of the world and its tainting - Arda Marred, if you will - is, at least to me, the the most prominent theme of The Silm, even THE theme. Especially so with the last lines, which I don't have on me now.

Galadriel55 · 08-09-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Narnangol

Especially so with the last lines, which I don't have on me now.

Here they are:

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Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Baugir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it aprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.

This is probably my most favourite passage in all the books. I have many favourites (too many for them to be called "favourites"...

), but this sentence is simply unbeatable.

Wait... there's more...

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Here ends the SILMARILLION. If it has passed from the high and beautiful to darkness and ruin, that was of old the fate of Arda Marred; and if any change shall come and the Marring be amended, Manwe and Varda may know; but they have not revealed it, and it is not declared in the dooms of Mandos.

This does indeed summarise the whole Sil.

Narnangol · 08-09-2011, 06:19 PM

Yes, that last quote! Exactly what I was trying to say. Tolkien seems to have put it in better words than me.

08-04-2011, 08:31 AM	#1
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,512	In that case, we will just have to disagree. I think that The Sil is a beautiful work, even if it wasn't completed by JRRT. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

08-05-2011, 06:39 AM	#4
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	FlimFlam– You do know that just saying you're not a troll by this stage carries about as much weight as insisting that a violet-eyed half-Elf fan-fic heroine is "not a Mary Sue"? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

08-09-2011, 11:25 AM	#5
Narnangol Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hall of Fire Posts: 42	I would like to add WISTFUL. I agree with everyone who said it was nostalgic or regretful in some way. The gradual diminishing of the world and its tainting - Arda Marred, if you will - is, at least to me, the the most prominent theme of The Silm, even THE theme. Especially so with the last lines, which I don't have on me now. __________________ A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid.

08-09-2011, 06:19 PM	#7
Narnangol Animated Skeleton Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Hall of Fire Posts: 42	Yes, that last quote! Exactly what I was trying to say. Tolkien seems to have put it in better words than me. __________________ A box without hinges, key, or lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid.

08-04-2011, 09:56 AM	#3
FlimFlamSam Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 25	Galadriel55 spoke: [In that case, we will just have to disagree] Yeppers. Nice summation of the exisitng words used in the thread so far. Good work. Nerwen spoke: [I think this guy's just trolling.] Yeah... No--that's not it.