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the phantom · 08-14-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Eruhen

Phantom, I can't see how your plan is any different than what normally happens on Day 1. Accusations and innuendos are thrown around, nothing can really be determined because we have no prior votes to go off of, and everyone ends up lynching whoever is most suspicious to them.

The difference is that we don't lynch the most suspicious person this time, but rather we try and lynch the KD. Not that our chances are astronomical, but it requires a slightly different process.

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Originally Posted by Eruhen

I just don't see how the KD could potentially make xymself a target without breaking our moddess' 'no reveals' rule, as both G55 and Inzil have stated.

It's possible. Not easy, but possible. Especially if you have people like me floating around just itching to make the lynch.

Inziladun · 08-14-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Especially if you have people like me floating around just itching to make the lynch.

"Floating"? "Itching"? The mystery is solved. The phantom is a mosquito.

Inziladun · 08-14-2011, 08:28 PM

Or not. At any rate, tp is doing his usual to bring the focus on him from the get-go.

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

Boromir88 · 08-14-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Or not. At any rate, tp is doing his usual to bring the focus on him from the get-go.

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

I'm going to assume they're thinking like me, and that is waiting for phantom's brilliance to win. Why pile on more work for yourself now, right?

I think I can predict Day 2 discussion already...It's going to be phantom's genius is obviously too advanced for the time, and thus has no chance to succeed. Everyone scraps the idea completely and ignores it. Some will argue tp deserves to be lynched for it, others will defend him with much gusto and flair. Some will choose to look at votes to cast suspicion, some will fling out the most outrageous claims based on gut feelings, some won't have our best interest at hearts, and some will continue to vote randomly do to lack of time.

The positive news is there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1, as too often you see with gifteds getting lynched early. I mean, the one we most don't want to lynch would be the Watchdwarf, because I think tp's biggest point is the KD would serve us better as a known dead than an unknown cobbler against the Forge.

Finduilas · 08-14-2011, 09:17 PM

Oh dear, how terribly confusing.

I think it would be rather unfun if the KD did stuff purposely to die. I don't think that the plan is fool-proof, though of course, any werewolf strategy usually isn't (that is, if werewolf is enough like Mafia for me to be able to say that). And also, Phantom suggested that the Sweetheart be a turncoat and do her best to get the fellow killed. That's just wrong... from a story point of view. As to whether it's logical game-wise, I'll think about it as I lay in bed tonight thinking about evil dwarves. Not that me thinking it logical changes anything... But it would still be wrong...

Um, on a side note as an ignorant beginner, what does e/x, exed, xed stand for?

Inziladun · 08-14-2011, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

The positive news is there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1, as too often you see with gifteds getting lynched early.

I suppose that's true. Any lynch of a non-wolf is bad, but here the odds of hitting the Watchdwarf are pretty low. Then again, how often have Seers been lynched on Day 1?

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Originally Posted by Finduilas

Um, on a side note as an ignorant beginner, what does e/x, exed, xed stand for?

All are ways to indicate you've cross-posted with someone.

Finduilas · 08-14-2011, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

All are ways to indicate you've cross-posted with someone.

Thanks. Figured, but didn't want to assume.

Boromir88 · 08-14-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I suppose that's true. Any lynch of a non-wolf is bad, but here the odds of hitting the Watchdwarf are pretty low. Then again, how often have Seers been lynched on Day 1?

Or the previous one where the hunter got into trouble and his main target on Day 1 was the ranger.

Folwren · 08-15-2011, 10:45 AM

I saw that you wanted a mod-input on the subject of killing the KD.

The game does not automatically end if the KD is killed by either the villagers or the Forge members.

Need anything else? I can give you my opinion on TP's plot, but I won't.

Have fun.

-- Folwren

Galadriel55 · 08-15-2011, 02:19 PM

Sally didn't say much. No opinion.
Inzil said more, but no impression on him registered in my head. For now, he makes some sense to me, so I'll save my suspicions for other people.
Nerwen made some good points, but she always does that.
Boro ... same as Zil, pretty much
Galadriel is a known innocent... Wait, that's me? Can't I give an opinion about myself?

Eruhen is against tp's plan. So are many others. No opinon.
Bom made some really odd statements, but... doesn't he always...

Glirdan is innocent until D2. After that, he might not be.
Finduilas "played the newbie", but it doesn't mean anything role-wise.
Rikae really liked tp's plan. That's all she said all Day. So: no impression.
McCaber=?
Wilwa is not someone I would vote for. She gives me innocent vibes.
Pitchwife looks innocent so far. I don't get tp's vote for him. They just disagreed, and then tp votes for Pitch.
the Phantom is too busy demonstrating his brilliance to look for wolves. Seriously, our goal is to get wolves, not the KD! Although the latter might give us clues to the former's identities, our ultimate goal is to lynch wolves!
Mithalwen said nothing evil, but somehow her posts make me wary (although one made me happy :-))

So what do I have? A couple people that look innocentish, and the rest as questionmarks.

Seeing as votes are retrackable,

++TP

Wolf or not, life is just so much easier without all that scheming.

Edit: xed with Zil. Seems that tp is more (un)popular than he thinks! :P

the phantom · 08-14-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Boro

The positive news is there really can be no disastrous lynches on Day 1

Yes, the fact that there is no Seer makes me much more at ease today than I usually am with a Day 1 lynch (where I customarily try to lynch an Ordo just to avoid the gifteds).

Ha ha, and your Day 2 prediction is just so right!

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Originally Posted by Inzil

Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay.

Yeah, still waiting.

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Originally Posted by Finduilas

And also, Phantom suggested that the Sweetheart be a turncoat and do her best to get the fellow killed.

Ah, but if he's actually wishing to die, she wouldn't be betraying him by helping him carry out his wishes, would she?

the phantom · 08-14-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Finduilas

Um, on a side note as an ignorant beginner, what does e/x, exed, xed stand for?

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Originally Posted by Inzil

All are ways to indicate you've cross-posted with someone.

Oh! THAT'S what it means! All this time I thought it was supposed to be an insult, along the lines of "screw you", only the more hostile version.

I mean, people were always saying, "Xed Phantom", so I just assumed...

Boromir88 · 08-14-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Ah, but if he's actually wishing to die, she wouldn't be betraying him by helping him carry out his wishes, would she?

Who doesn't love a nice Shakespearean romance?

08-14-2011, 08:28 PM	#3
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Or not. At any rate, tp is doing his usual to bring the focus on him from the get-go. Seems there are quite a few who have yet to make an appearance toDay. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

08-14-2011, 09:17 PM	#5
Finduilas Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Home. Where rolling green hills and clear rivers are practically my backyard. Posts: 595	Oh dear, how terribly confusing. I think it would be rather unfun if the KD did stuff purposely to die. I don't think that the plan is fool-proof, though of course, any werewolf strategy usually isn't (that is, if werewolf is enough like Mafia for me to be able to say that). And also, Phantom suggested that the Sweetheart be a turncoat and do her best to get the fellow killed. That's just wrong... from a story point of view. As to whether it's logical game-wise, I'll think about it as I lay in bed tonight thinking about evil dwarves. Not that me thinking it logical changes anything... But it would still be wrong... Um, on a side note as an ignorant beginner, what does e/x, exed, xed stand for? __________________ One (1) book of rules and traffic regulations, which may not be bent or broken. ~ The Phantom Tollbooth

08-15-2011, 10:45 AM	#9
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Clarifying- I saw that you wanted a mod-input on the subject of killing the KD. The game does not automatically end if the KD is killed by either the villagers or the Forge members. Need anything else? I can give you my opinion on TP's plot, but I won't. Have fun. -- Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-15-2011, 02:19 PM	#10
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,493	Sally didn't say much. No opinion. Inzil said more, but no impression on him registered in my head. For now, he makes some sense to me, so I'll save my suspicions for other people. Nerwen made some good points, but she always does that. Boro ... same as Zil, pretty much Galadriel is a known innocent... Wait, that's me? Can't I give an opinion about myself? Eruhen is against tp's plan. So are many others. No opinon. Bom made some really odd statements, but... doesn't he always... Glirdan is innocent until D2. After that, he might not be. Finduilas "played the newbie", but it doesn't mean anything role-wise. Rikae really liked tp's plan. That's all she said all Day. So: no impression. McCaber=? Wilwa is not someone I would vote for. She gives me innocent vibes. Pitchwife looks innocent so far. I don't get tp's vote for him. They just disagreed, and then tp votes for Pitch. the Phantom is too busy demonstrating his brilliance to look for wolves. Seriously, our goal is to get wolves, not the KD! Although the latter might give us clues to the former's identities, our ultimate goal is to lynch wolves! Mithalwen said nothing evil, but somehow her posts make me wary (although one made me happy :-)) So what do I have? A couple people that look innocentish, and the rest as questionmarks. Seeing as votes are retrackable, ++TP Wolf or not, life is just so much easier without all that scheming. Edit: xed with Zil. Seems that tp is more (un)popular than he thinks! :P __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 08-15-2011 at 02:33 PM. Reason: spelling & grammar