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Galadriel55 · 10-02-2011, 10:56 AM

I thought they were Gondorian messengers, possibly the same ones that were decapitatedon their way back.

Edit: sorry, that hypothesis is likely wrong. I checked ROTK, and it says that there were two riders: Hirgon and his companion that we saw during Hirgon's report about the darkness. We don't see a third messenger anywhere. Unless the third one stayed with Theoden or went back to Gondor by himself or rode on to some other place, they aren't the three riders Pippin and Gandalf saw.

Inziladun · 10-02-2011, 11:19 AM

Gandalf had not long before noted that "the land of Anórien is passing by", which was part of Gondor. Also, the alarm-beacons of Gondor were visible, so it seems entirely possible that the three riders were simply anonymous Gondorian soldiers on some errand or other.

Lalaith · 10-02-2011, 11:27 AM

Yes, I suppose that would work, I just wondered if it referred to something I'd missed.
Also, reading the chapter in the wake of visiting Mont St Michel this summer, this is the vision I had in my mind of Minas Tirith...

littlemanpoet · 10-02-2011, 06:43 PM

Reasonably close, Lalaith! Nice pic, too.

Inziladun · 10-02-2011, 08:16 PM

Indeed, Lal. Good one!

Galadriel55 · 10-02-2011, 09:05 PM

Thirded. Nice picture!

And I think that Zil is right about the riders: Tolkien did not write Sherlock Holmes novels where every detail means something or other. The riders could be random, accidental, passers-by.

littlemanpoet · 10-04-2011, 06:51 PM

Mebbe the third one got et by orcs....

10-02-2011, 10:56 AM	#1
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,518	I thought they were Gondorian messengers, possibly the same ones that were decapitatedon their way back. Edit: sorry, that hypothesis is likely wrong. I checked ROTK, and it says that there were two riders: Hirgon and his companion that we saw during Hirgon's report about the darkness. We don't see a third messenger anywhere. Unless the third one stayed with Theoden or went back to Gondor by himself or rode on to some other place, they aren't the three riders Pippin and Gandalf saw. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera Last edited by Galadriel55; 10-02-2011 at 11:12 AM.

10-02-2011, 11:19 AM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Gandalf had not long before noted that "the land of Anórien is passing by", which was part of Gondor. Also, the alarm-beacons of Gondor were visible, so it seems entirely possible that the three riders were simply anonymous Gondorian soldiers on some errand or other. __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

10-02-2011, 11:27 AM	#3
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	Yes, I suppose that would work, I just wondered if it referred to something I'd missed. Also, reading the chapter in the wake of visiting Mont St Michel this summer, this is the vision I had in my mind of Minas Tirith... __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

10-02-2011, 08:16 PM	#5
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Indeed, Lal. Good one! __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

10-02-2011, 09:05 PM	#6
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,518	Thirded. Nice picture! And I think that Zil is right about the riders: Tolkien did not write Sherlock Holmes novels where every detail means something or other. The riders could be random, accidental, passers-by. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

10-02-2011, 06:43 PM	#4
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Reasonably close, Lalaith! Nice pic, too.

10-04-2011, 06:51 PM	#7
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Mebbe the third one got et by orcs....