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Lalwendë · 07-09-2012, 03:19 PM

Now this is rather special.

Scrolling Thingummy that shows scenes from the film, which you can zoom in on. Lots of interesting detail. And Beorn. And what look to be proper Wargs, not rubbish Hyenas. And the Dwarves in their barrels.

davem found this. I have to say that or he will be cross

Morthoron · 07-09-2012, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

Now this is rather special.

Scrolling Thingummy that shows scenes from the film, which you can zoom in on. Lots of interesting detail. And Beorn. And what look to be proper Wargs, not rubbish Hyenas. And the Dwarves in their barrels.

davem found this. I have to say that or he will be cross

Thanks Lal (and davem

)

*sigh*

Must they make the dwarves so infernally undwarvish? It's disconcerting. Short beards? Thorin is 200 years too young! Bah!

Galadriel55 · 07-09-2012, 07:43 PM

I second that! Thanks davem for finding and Lal for posting this!

I think my favourite scene with the Dwarves is when they're walking up a mountain, but it's still horribly hollywooded by the moon.

In the scene where Bilbo is creeping next to a large pot, what is the creature in the background? Is that one of the trolls? I know that the LOTR-movie trolls looked like that and all, but I imagined Tom, Bert, and Bill to look more intelligent and less grotesque (well they could do more than grunt... they even had conversations!). And what's a barrel to do with a Troll's pockets, anyways?

davem · 07-10-2012, 04:51 AM

Managed to grab the scroll image as a still via Firefox. Tried to upload the full image as a still in high(ish) definition. You might have to click the full screen option (far right of the four bottom buttons) to make it appear http://zoom.it/30zW Should also be viewable for those who can't view Flash images which I think the EW site uses.

mark12_30 · 07-10-2012, 06:43 AM

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whether they should roast them slowly, or mince them fine and boil them, or just sit on them one by one and squash them into jelly

I would say that in order to consider the "mince and boil" option, a large cauldron is a reasonable possibility. Made sense to me.

Dwarves in barrels... open barrels, tis true, but at least, barrels. Thank God PJ didn't change THAT.

Overall I liked the pictures... real wolves; Elrond studying the scroll (nice!); Gollum's lake; Mirkwood. What Bridge is that? Gorgeous shot. Reminds me of something from pre-Moria-- was it in the background of some shot before Moria? Leading up to the Doors, maybe?

mark12_30 · 07-10-2012, 06:46 AM

In the first picture there's a G rune on the door!!! Awesome!!!

...one more thought on the short-bearded dwarves... is it possible they did not shave, but are simply young? That their beards have just started growing? And might that explain also some of the otherwise untenable, er, pursuits that have some of us frowning so? Maybe the rest of the dwarves forgive Kili his crush on Tauriel just because he's still, essentially, a teenager. A young twitling in armor.

Boromir88 · 07-10-2012, 09:09 AM

I love Bilbo in the tree surrounded by wargs...yes actually looking wolvey, and not hybrid hyena things

It does appear though in that first image Gandalf is holding Glamdring...which would be a very amusing plot hole. But it might just be a later, post-Troll horde image of Gandalf stuck in front of Bag End.

Eönwë · 07-10-2012, 10:11 AM

Was going to post this yesterday, but the davem/Lal team are definitely fast.

I agree with most what's been said particularly the actually wolvish wargs (and I suppose they can just claim it's the northern breed, so as not to damage continuity).

However, as for the trolls, there's already this from the LOTR films, so I think that they really will have to look like that. They do look more human than the cave troll though, so there's still hope.

Other than that (and obviously the undwarvish Dwarves), I think it looks pretty good. I'm determined to enjoy it. Though what's this Gandalf/Galadriel thing again?

Galadriel55 · 07-10-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

However, as for the trolls, there's already this from the LOTR films, so I think that they really will have to look like that. They do look more human than the cave troll though, so there's still hope.

Where is that from? I don't seem to recall it. Is it from EE?

And, yes, those look a few touches better than the cave-troll.

Boromir88 · 07-10-2012, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Where is that from? I don't seem to recall it. Is it from EE?

You can see the trolls in the background in one of the theatrical scenes (I believe it's sometime after Frodo is stabbed on Weathertop). In the EE, there is a specific mentioning of "Bilbo's trolls" however.

Lalwendë · 07-11-2012, 03:13 PM

The troll on this new pic doesn't look very 'human', it's like a shrunken head that's all slavering jaw on top of a thick neck. It's very creepy, it made me think of the Francis Bacon painting - Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion, all writhing agony and weird teeth. Brrrrr....

Richard Armitage looks utterly cool as Thorin though, I have to say

Eönwë · 07-13-2012, 04:44 PM

Coincidentally, I just came across this.

Lalwendë · 07-14-2012, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

Coincidentally, I just came across this.

It's a bit odd that the one in the scrolling thingie doesn't look like those. Maybe they have digitally altered the neck or something, but it looks far more creepy than those maquettes.

The Hobbit panel is today at Comic-Con (they've been queueing since 4am apparently), so we should have some more news later, hopefully. Maybe some images or even a bit of footage?

Edit - had to add this pic of someone waiting many hours (I wonder, are they singing: "the queue goes ever on and on...") to see the Hobbit panel at Comic-Con. His t-shirt made me laugh.

Edit - epic fail. It did not work. Oh well, take my word, it was funny. Maybe my failed attempt to post it is funnier though.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 07-14-2012, 10:01 PM

There are some incredible details in this film. I am happy to see the more wolf-like wargs, though I always pictured them being white. Did Tolkien describe their colour? I can't actually remember...

Lalwendë · 07-15-2012, 06:56 AM

The one thing I am really excited about is the news that there are Stone Trolls. I just hope the visuals for these are taken from Alan Lee's ideas, as he's so good at making use of the elements in creating his characters.

Also, Radagast on a sledge drawn by giant rabbits. Um... That will either be so bad it's funny or straight out of fairytale.

I like to think they decided to go with lupine wargs over the ugly Hyenas in the wake of Game of Thrones and the Direwolves.

07-09-2012, 03:19 PM	#1
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	Scrolling Detail Thingie of the Film Now this is rather special. Scrolling Thingummy that shows scenes from the film, which you can zoom in on. Lots of interesting detail. And Beorn. And what look to be proper Wargs, not rubbish Hyenas. And the Dwarves in their barrels. davem found this. I have to say that or he will be cross __________________ Gordon's alive!

07-09-2012, 07:43 PM	#3
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,512	I second that! Thanks davem for finding and Lal for posting this! I think my favourite scene with the Dwarves is when they're walking up a mountain, but it's still horribly hollywooded by the moon. In the scene where Bilbo is creeping next to a large pot, what is the creature in the background? Is that one of the trolls? I know that the LOTR-movie trolls looked like that and all, but I imagined Tom, Bert, and Bill to look more intelligent and less grotesque (well they could do more than grunt... they even had conversations!). And what's a barrel to do with a Troll's pockets, anyways? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-10-2012, 04:51 AM	#4
davem Illustrious Ulair Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: In the home of lost causes, and forsaken beliefs, and unpopular names,and impossible loyalties Posts: 4,240	Managed to grab the scroll image as a still via Firefox. Tried to upload the full image as a still in high(ish) definition. You might have to click the full screen option (far right of the four bottom buttons) to make it appear http://zoom.it/30zW Should also be viewable for those who can't view Flash images which I think the EW site uses. __________________ “Everything was an object. If you killed a dwarf you could use it as a weapon – it was no different to other large heavy objects."

07-10-2012, 06:46 AM	#6
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	In the first picture there's a G rune on the door!!! Awesome!!! ...one more thought on the short-bearded dwarves... is it possible they did not shave, but are simply young? That their beards have just started growing? And might that explain also some of the otherwise untenable, er, pursuits that have some of us frowning so? Maybe the rest of the dwarves forgive Kili his crush on Tauriel just because he's still, essentially, a teenager. A young twitling in armor. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 07-10-2012 at 06:49 AM.

07-10-2012, 09:09 AM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I love Bilbo in the tree surrounded by wargs...yes actually looking wolvey, and not hybrid hyena things It does appear though in that first image Gandalf is holding Glamdring...which would be a very amusing plot hole. But it might just be a later, post-Troll horde image of Gandalf stuck in front of Bag End. __________________ Fenris Penguin Last edited by Boromir88; 07-10-2012 at 09:19 AM.

07-10-2012, 10:11 AM	#8
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Was going to post this yesterday, but the davem/Lal team are definitely fast. I agree with most what's been said particularly the actually wolvish wargs (and I suppose they can just claim it's the northern breed, so as not to damage continuity). However, as for the trolls, there's already this from the LOTR films, so I think that they really will have to look like that. They do look more human than the cave troll though, so there's still hope. Other than that (and obviously the undwarvish Dwarves), I think it looks pretty good. I'm determined to enjoy it. Though what's this Gandalf/Galadriel thing again? __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-11-2012, 03:13 PM	#11
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	The troll on this new pic doesn't look very 'human', it's like a shrunken head that's all slavering jaw on top of a thick neck. It's very creepy, it made me think of the Francis Bacon painting - Three Studies for Figures at the Base of a Crucifixion, all writhing agony and weird teeth. Brrrrr.... Richard Armitage looks utterly cool as Thorin though, I have to say __________________ Gordon's alive!

07-13-2012, 04:44 PM	#12
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Coincidentally, I just came across this. __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

07-14-2012, 10:01 PM	#14
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Open barrels! Now I've seen everything! There are some incredible details in this film. I am happy to see the more wolf-like wargs, though I always pictured them being white. Did Tolkien describe their colour? I can't actually remember... __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

07-15-2012, 06:56 AM	#15
Lalwendë A Mere Boggart Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: under the bed Posts: 4,737	The one thing I am really excited about is the news that there are Stone Trolls. I just hope the visuals for these are taken from Alan Lee's ideas, as he's so good at making use of the elements in creating his characters. Also, Radagast on a sledge drawn by giant rabbits. Um... That will either be so bad it's funny or straight out of fairytale. I like to think they decided to go with lupine wargs over the ugly Hyenas in the wake of Game of Thrones and the Direwolves. __________________ Gordon's alive!