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Lhunardawen · 08-21-2012, 10:59 AM

One thing we could do is make a tally of each one's kills, but I think in the end it's going to be more about the prominence and widespread impact of the kill(s) than the number. Ancalagon was the mightiest of the dragons, but Glaurung's indirect "kills" are kind of more relevant to us since we're given a more detailed account of what he did. He might not have killed Túrin or Nienna directly, but his actions significantly contributed to their deaths. Gothmog killed 2 High Kings of the Noldor, Fëanor and Fingon. Mount Doom "killed" Gollum and the Ring, which ushered the end of an age. Eowyn killed the Witch King, an act that most people then probably thought impossible, not to mention it crippled Sauron's forces and psychological edge somewhat. Gandalf...is a lot of things, but I'm personally not as ready to associate deadly with him as with the others on the list. I will unabashedly admit that I cannot remember who Forweg was.

Based on this, it's Glaurung, Gothmog, and Mount Doom for me (in no particular order - at least for now). More thoughts when I wake up.

Gwathagor · 08-21-2012, 11:08 AM

Maybe even more important than the prominence or impact of the kills would be the strength/relative deadliness of the person killed? Which probably puts Gothmog or Eowyn at the top of the list.

Lhunardawen · 08-21-2012, 11:20 AM

Good point, Gwath. That does make Eowyn one deadly chick. In Gothmog's case, one could argue that First-Age, Light-of-the-Two-Trees Noldorin Elves cannot be that much stronger than a Balrog, but he was slain by Ecthelion. Also, Mount Doom is now a wimp that cannot pick on somebody its own size. (Edit: Only in Gollum's case. For the One Ring, maybe not.)

Boromir88 · 08-21-2012, 11:21 AM

After sifting through the PMs...just to make note here.

Sting and Carcharoth have been added, and that should be it for this round.

08-21-2012, 11:08 AM	#2
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Maybe even more important than the prominence or impact of the kills would be the strength/relative deadliness of the person killed? Which probably puts Gothmog or Eowyn at the top of the list. __________________ Stories and songs.

08-21-2012, 11:20 AM	#3
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Good point, Gwath. That does make Eowyn one deadly chick. In Gothmog's case, one could argue that First-Age, Light-of-the-Two-Trees Noldorin Elves cannot be that much stronger than a Balrog, but he was slain by Ecthelion. Also, Mount Doom is now a wimp that cannot pick on somebody its own size. (Edit: Only in Gollum's case. For the One Ring, maybe not.) Last edited by Lhunardawen; 08-21-2012 at 11:26 AM.

08-21-2012, 11:21 AM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	After sifting through the PMs...just to make note here. Sting and Carcharoth have been added, and that should be it for this round. __________________ Fenris Penguin

08-21-2012, 10:59 AM	#1
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	One thing we could do is make a tally of each one's kills, but I think in the end it's going to be more about the prominence and widespread impact of the kill(s) than the number. Ancalagon was the mightiest of the dragons, but Glaurung's indirect "kills" are kind of more relevant to us since we're given a more detailed account of what he did. He might not have killed Túrin or Nienna directly, but his actions significantly contributed to their deaths. Gothmog killed 2 High Kings of the Noldor, Fëanor and Fingon. Mount Doom "killed" Gollum and the Ring, which ushered the end of an age. Eowyn killed the Witch King, an act that most people then probably thought impossible, not to mention it crippled Sauron's forces and psychological edge somewhat. Gandalf...is a lot of things, but I'm personally not as ready to associate deadly with him as with the others on the list. I will unabashedly admit that I cannot remember who Forweg was. Based on this, it's Glaurung, Gothmog, and Mount Doom for me (in no particular order - at least for now). More thoughts when I wake up.