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Galadriel55 · 09-13-2012, 05:25 PM

After despairing to do this with only my memory, and systematically going through the list of rivers on the Encyclopedia of Arda, I finally found one that might make sense.

Flower=river=Ninglor, an Elvish name for the Gladden River

Lost direction=take off N

Ninglor - N = Inglor

Inglor is the name of Gildor's father. In earlier writings that was the name of Finrod, but even ignoring that and looking at just LOTR, Gildor seems to be some important fellow among his bunch, which would suggest that his father was too. And they are both of the House of Finrod, which is quite a noble house indeed...

Where sacred comes in, though, no clue have I.

Mithalwen · 09-14-2012, 02:59 AM

Can't fault the logic and full marks for ingenuity but it isn't Inglor. the first bit is the "straight" clue. If it helps the river isn't in Middle Earth and sacred relates to it. the rest of the clue will give you the rest of the name.

Mithalwen · 09-18-2012, 11:09 AM

I thought this was easy ...

Galadriel55 · 09-18-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I thought this was easy ...

Apparently not...

Don't think I've abandoned this thread. I've been thinking about it a lot, and I can't really make the river fit with the rest of the clue. I'm still working on it.

Mithalwen · 09-18-2012, 11:55 AM

Sprang up but lost direction could be replacedby bloomer loses direction if it helps...

Galadriel55 · 09-18-2012, 12:41 PM

Oy... Rivers, bloomers, physics homework one on top of the other... My head is amess.

Is it Mallor?

Mallos - S (south) + R (river)?

I don't know. I have to think some more.

Mithalwen · 09-18-2012, 01:46 PM

Only the solution is a middle earth thing. Remember that the alternate clues give the same answer. I thiny you may be trying too hard since I don't know who Mallor is (bad Tolkienista).

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh · 09-18-2012, 01:51 PM

The second part of the clue is rose - e. So we have the scion of a noble house whose name ends in ros. There are three possible answers and I can't work out how to achieve any of them from 'sacred flower'. I think it's Maedhros, but the only reference I can find to maedh being sacred is in the name of St Maedhog, Bishop of Ferns.

09-13-2012, 05:25 PM	#1
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,519	After despairing to do this with only my memory, and systematically going through the list of rivers on the Encyclopedia of Arda, I finally found one that might make sense. Flower=river=Ninglor, an Elvish name for the Gladden River Lost direction=take off N Ninglor - N = Inglor Inglor is the name of Gildor's father. In earlier writings that was the name of Finrod, but even ignoring that and looking at just LOTR, Gildor seems to be some important fellow among his bunch, which would suggest that his father was too. And they are both of the House of Finrod, which is quite a noble house indeed... Where sacred comes in, though, no clue have I. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-14-2012, 02:59 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Can't fault the logic and full marks for ingenuity but it isn't Inglor. the first bit is the "straight" clue. If it helps the river isn't in Middle Earth and sacred relates to it. the rest of the clue will give you the rest of the name. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-18-2012, 11:09 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I thought this was easy ... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-18-2012, 11:55 AM	#5
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Sprang up but lost direction could be replacedby bloomer loses direction if it helps... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-18-2012, 12:41 PM	#6
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,519	Oy... Rivers, bloomers, physics homework one on top of the other... My head is amess. Is it Mallor? Mallos - S (south) + R (river)? I don't know. I have to think some more. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

09-18-2012, 01:46 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Only the solution is a middle earth thing. Remember that the alternate clues give the same answer. I thiny you may be trying too hard since I don't know who Mallor is (bad Tolkienista). __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-18-2012, 01:51 PM	#8
The Squatter of Amon Rûdh Spectre of Decay Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Bar-en-Danwedh Posts: 2,178	The second part of the clue is rose - e. So we have the scion of a noble house whose name ends in ros. There are three possible answers and I can't work out how to achieve any of them from 'sacred flower'. I think it's Maedhros, but the only reference I can find to maedh being sacred is in the name of St Maedhog, Bishop of Ferns. __________________ Man kenuva métim' andúne?