New trailer for 'The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey' - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Kath · 09-23-2012, 01:27 PM

I have to say that I love the fact that most of the actors are being allowed to keep their usual accents for their roles. I had feared that, having had Gimli be so overtly Scottish in LotR, all the Dwarves would be required to have Scottish accents in The Hobbit. To hear a mix of voices from the length of the country is lovely! That said, if you are going to cast James Nesbitt you are just going to have to accept the Irish accent.

With Fili and Kili - is one of the actors playing them naturally Northern? Because in that case it makes sense for Aiden Turner to use a northern accent than to get the other chap to try an Irish one. Most people trying to do Irish just sound appalling.

Mithalwen · 09-23-2012, 02:56 PM

They showed the trailer at the Hobbit thing Lalaith and I went to on Friday night. As you might expect it looked better on the big screen but it still disturbs me what Radagast is doing to than hedgepig....

As for accents ..as long as those playing brothers have the same one ... it bugged me that they went to the trouble to get actors who looked plausible to play Sean Bean's father and brother and then let them have completely different accents, they might as well have let them speak their native Strine.. Unless it was meant to be a joke like Daphne's brothers in Frasier.

radagastly · 09-23-2012, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by Kath:

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With Fili and Kili - is one of the actors playing them naturally Northern? Because in that case it makes sense for Aiden Turner to use a northern accent than to get the other chap to try an Irish one. Most people trying to do Irish just sound appalling.

Originally posted by Mithalwen:

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As for accents ..as long as those playing brothers have the same one ... it bugged me that they went to the trouble to get actors who looked plausible to play Sean Bean's father and brother and then let them have completely different accents, they might as well have let them speak their native Strine.. Unless it was meant to be a joke like Daphne's brothers in Frasier.

Aiden Turner (Kili) is from Ireland. Dean O'Gorman (Fili) is from New Zealand. I guess we'll just have to wait until December to hear what happens with their accents. I hope I remember to listen. It's not really a high priority to me. As long as it's not too jarring.

Ninde Lossehelin · 09-27-2012, 04:46 AM

I am so so so excited. Personally, I liked this trailer better because..... wait never mind.. i love them both

William Cloud Hicklin · 09-27-2012, 11:14 AM

If the makers wanted to take Tolkien at his word, they's give all the Dwarves a slight Yiddish accent.... but I doubt that would be politically possible.

Morthoron · 09-27-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

If the makers wanted to take Tolkien at his word, they's give all the Dwarves a slight Yiddish accent.... but I doubt that would be politically possible.

Oy vey!

Lalwendë · 10-02-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kath

I have to say that I love the fact that most of the actors are being allowed to keep their usual accents for their roles. I had feared that, having had Gimli be so overtly Scottish in LotR, all the Dwarves would be required to have Scottish accents in The Hobbit. To hear a mix of voices from the length of the country is lovely! That said, if you are going to cast James Nesbitt you are just going to have to accept the Irish accent.

With Fili and Kili - is one of the actors playing them naturally Northern? Because in that case it makes sense for Aiden Turner to use a northern accent than to get the other chap to try an Irish one. Most people trying to do Irish just sound appalling.

I always think Gimli's Scots accent is terrible, my own attempt at doing Mrs Goggins from Postman Pat is better

He sounds Welsh.

Maybe they have simply gone for an accent that both actors could 'do'? Because yes, it annoyed me when family members in LotR had different accents. It annoyed me enough that all four of the main Hobbits sounded different - especially as The Shire just isn't big enough to allow for that.

jallanite · 10-03-2012, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lalwendë

It annoyed me enough that all four of the main Hobbits sounded different - especially as The Shire just isn't big enough to allow for that.

See the comments by dialect coach Andrew Jack on the rationale used in the accents in The Lord of the Rings film at http://www.andrewjack.com/lord-of-th...-rationale.htm .

They generally used a Gloucestershire accent, giving to Sam a rural form of the accent and to Frodo and Bilbo one closer to RP. Merry’s accent was between the two. Pippin was given a Scottish accent because it was found that having the actor Billy Boyd do a laid-back Gloucestershire accent just didn’t work for him so they rationalized his natural Scottish accent as a Tookland accent.

What four accents did you hear?

09-23-2012, 01:27 PM	#1
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I have to say that I love the fact that most of the actors are being allowed to keep their usual accents for their roles. I had feared that, having had Gimli be so overtly Scottish in LotR, all the Dwarves would be required to have Scottish accents in The Hobbit. To hear a mix of voices from the length of the country is lovely! That said, if you are going to cast James Nesbitt you are just going to have to accept the Irish accent. With Fili and Kili - is one of the actors playing them naturally Northern? Because in that case it makes sense for Aiden Turner to use a northern accent than to get the other chap to try an Irish one. Most people trying to do Irish just sound appalling. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

09-23-2012, 02:56 PM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	They showed the trailer at the Hobbit thing Lalaith and I went to on Friday night. As you might expect it looked better on the big screen but it still disturbs me what Radagast is doing to than hedgepig.... As for accents ..as long as those playing brothers have the same one ... it bugged me that they went to the trouble to get actors who looked plausible to play Sean Bean's father and brother and then let them have completely different accents, they might as well have let them speak their native Strine.. Unless it was meant to be a joke like Daphne's brothers in Frasier. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

09-27-2012, 04:46 AM	#4
Ninde Lossehelin Pile O'Bones Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Where else but the Shire Posts: 13	I am so so so excited. Personally, I liked this trailer better because..... wait never mind.. i love them both __________________ "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."

09-27-2012, 11:14 AM	#5
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	If the makers wanted to take Tolkien at his word, they's give all the Dwarves a slight Yiddish accent.... but I doubt that would be politically possible. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.