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Old 09-29-2012, 09:40 AM   #1
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I have some big time concerns about The Hobbit:

2) That the tone will be all over place--That it will jump between too dark and too light and childish. That it will come off really inconsistent.

5) Too much juvenile humor. Too many goofy jokes, whether it be about Goblins falling on the party or the Dwarves' weight. Tolkien is humorous to be sure, but it's a very dignified, old fashioned sense of humor. This seems like typical road movie, juvenile modern day humor. Like humor you'd see in a typical comedy film. The Hobbit--Tolkien's Hobbit--has comedic moments, but it's more an enchanting adventure. Which is what I was hoping for here--an adventure film with the grandness of a classic Disney film (but not the tone), with the visuals and whatnot of PJ's Rings. A faithful adaptation which could enchant as much as the books did.

It's the last period of time where there is a spark of innocence, magic and light in Middle Earth, without the fate of the world hanging in the balance. Really in some ways it's last magical adventure of Middle Earth before the world is mired in darkness and history goes into the Fourth Age, when magic beginz to fade.
You should be concerned; what you are concerned about is exactly what Jackson will do to the Hobbit story. Peter Jackson is a dullard. The beauty and magic we see in Tolkien's writing is invisible to Jackson. When he reads Tolkien he might as well be flipping through a cheap comic book. The movie will be chock full of cringe-inducing "juvenile modern day humor", and will jump back and forth between childishness and seriousness with accompanying musical score inserted to inform the core audience precisely how they should feel about what they are observing at that moment. Anachronisms will abound. All one can do is take comfort in the fact that Jackson and the modern movie industry cannot undo the beauty of Tolkien's books, despite their efforts.
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Old 09-30-2012, 06:18 PM   #2
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In retrospect, I was a bit to harsh in my above criticism of PJ. Parts of the LOTR movies were well done, as I'm sure will be the case with the Hobbit movies. But I do share your concerns.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:32 PM   #3
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Do we know what it is PJ is adding to the original story?

Will it be stuff from other parts of Tolkiens work, or just pure fanfiction?
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Old 09-30-2012, 11:38 PM   #4
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The Evangeline Lily charater is fan fic (all hail Mary Sue!), the rest is Tolkienif on the level that events such as the White Council are known to have happened but fan fic because we don't have much detail of what happened at White Council meetings or when Gandalf entered Dol Guldur. There is a little in UT I think but I don't think PJ is allowed to use UT.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:10 AM   #5
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Evangeline Lilly
As an elf is quite silly,
But given PJ's predilection
For scripting fan-fiction,
It's all we can expect till he
Writes with conviction,
Or gets convicted -
Whichever the case may be.
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Old 10-01-2012, 03:49 PM   #6
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Legolas, I can understand having. But oly as a member of the parties ir part of the group that captures the dwarves. And I thought Gimli was born 10 years AFTER The Hobbit? Is he really going to be in the movie? What. The. Fire truck.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:36 PM   #7
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I simply cannot wait for that magic moment in the darkened theater when I can leap ecstatically from my seat, exclaiming: "Look Everybody! It's Evangeline Lilly from the TV series Lost together with Orlando Bloom from Pirates of the Caribbean!"

Take care what you wish for, Peter Jackson. You just might get it.
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Old 10-01-2012, 04:41 PM   #8
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Legolas, I can understand having. But oly as a member of the parties ir part of the group that captures the dwarves. And I thought Gimli was born 10 years AFTER The Hobbit? Is he really going to be in the movie? What. The. Fire truck.
Gimli was alive at the time of the Hobbit but was considered too young to go on the expedition.
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