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Old 10-18-2012, 01:29 PM   #1
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Yay! The best Taters To Taters discussion so far! (I mean, yes, not too much on topic of the game but I do love discussions spreading from an instant just like that)

To be honest, I was not thinking of it that deep into the social structure of the ME as I just had to make an argument to drop one contender off the list where my own was to try and steer it a 50-50 chance for my candidate (and it was hard to argue against Glaurunbg being malicious )...

But where I was coming to the discussion was this: Bilbo (and therefore Frodo) was thought to be an outrageously rich person and having queer habits & interests - so being outside the local conservative community in every way. And therefore all those involved with them (Sam, Pip, Merry) would bé looked with suspicion as well. With resentment even as they were doing so well.

When they came back you see the four hobbits coming with all the strange costumes, mighty weapons, expensive-looking gadgets... and worldly and noble in their carriage of themselves... so it would have been an easy target for resentment, something that could awake a sense of righteousness while standoing up against those strange-ones who hadn't shared the common tragedy - or who looked like they knew better and were better than you - so not so much malice but a pay-back, or a fight for one's identity and honour.

Yeah, I know that might be a bit far-fetched, but remember I had an argument to make against Ted Sandyman being malicious as he was easier to argue against than Glaurung.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:42 PM   #2
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Yay! The best Taters To Taters discussion so far! (I mean, yes, not too much on topic of the game but I do love discussions spreading from an instant just like that)
I know this is fantastic!

Now as far as Ted Sandyman, I've always imagined if there was a modern stereotype he'd fit, it would be the ultimate internet troll. "Nah uh, did you see it? It can't be real if you didn't see it!" "Your uncle is cracked, and you're cracked for listening!" Not so much malicious, just someone who'd be very hard to be in the company of...

But then he does become a turncoat, although I liked the previous points on Grima (and think the same applies to Ted). That is, Grima's malice was fueled for personal gain and better social standing...Glaurung and The Mouth of Sauron's malice was right down to simple satisfaction and cruel enjoyment.
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:53 PM   #3
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But then he does become a turncoat, although I liked the previous points on Grima (and think the same applies to Ted). That is, Grima's malice was fueled for personal gain and better social standing...Glaurung and The Mouth of Sauron's malice was right down to simple satisfaction and cruel enjoyment.
Very much agreed!

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Old 10-18-2012, 02:00 PM   #4
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Very much agreed!

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Old 10-18-2012, 03:37 PM   #5
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It's the second time I do it. Last game Nog and I played Elwing and Earendil together. This game Huorns and Fangorn. I'm curious about who me matie is this time.
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:55 PM   #6
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Lommy these are the "Classic" taters to choose from:

Taniquetil
The Void
Galadriel
Elendil the Tall
Gorgoroth
The Noldor
Samwise Gamgee
The Last Alliance
Gandalf the White

And exactly like Huorn - Fangorn, it appears 2 of you are on the same wavelength this round:

Mandos
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Old 10-18-2012, 05:59 PM   #7
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"Classic" is a hard one. I guess it works if you apply it to the characters...Gandalf, Elendil, Galadriel, and Samwise.

But the Void?
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Old 10-18-2012, 10:28 PM   #8
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And exactly like Huorn - Fangorn, it appears 2 of you are on the same wavelength this round:

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I think you could make a case for Elendil/The Last Alliance as well.
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Old 10-19-2012, 04:38 PM   #9
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Have to do this early again, but as always until 8pm EST (Midnight GMT) tomorrow to send me your choice.

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)
Rune - 1 (Energetic)
Lottie - 1 (Malicious)
Legate - 1 (Classic)

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ROUND 6

Green tater: Famous (well-known, important, distinguished)
Judge: Lottie
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Old 10-20-2012, 02:55 PM   #10
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I remembered this morning again was spent with hooliganising teenagers, and now I have a wedding event to attend. So I will open the next round up when I get back (probably sometime around midnight EST)
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