Nimrodel & Amroth - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Pervinca Took · 10-29-2012, 05:21 AM

Suicide wasn't encouraged, though, was it? I imagine Mandos would have taken a pretty dim view of it.

morwen edhelwen · 10-29-2012, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Suicide wasn't encouraged, though, was it? I imagine Mandos would have taken a pretty dim view of it.

Which raises the question, "What do you think happened to them?"
Maybe they did find each other... I think Nimrodel's flaw was that she was proud and didn't know what to choose between two alternatives. She loved Amroth, but didn't like the Sindar because they had taken over her country, basically.

William Cloud Hicklin · 11-01-2012, 11:07 AM

" Imrazor the Numenorean, who "ruled" the area of Dol Amroth"

Except it wouldn't have been called Dol Amroth at the time. Imrazor was Prince of Belfalas, which apparently was an established realm of the Faithful Numenoreans which predated Gondor (note his Adunaic name).

Mithalwen · 11-01-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by morwen edhelwen

Which raises the question, "What do you think happened to them?"
Maybe they did find each other...

It is quite possible that they did find each other in or on release from Mandos but how would the songmakers of the Silvan realms know? They only know that they didn't come back. The Silvan elves have a different knowlege of and relationship to the Undying Land from the High Elves. They may be less aware of the fate of dead elves. Even Legolas who has better connections than most of his kind regards Galadriel's warning about the sea as speaking to him of his death. Maybe Nimrodel refused the summons to Mandos and her unhoused Fea lingers by her stream while Amroth waits in vain in Eressea.

mark12_30 · 11-03-2012, 11:33 AM

Mithalwen, that was similar to the tack we took in "Friands of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams." We had lots of fun, writing the ending to their story. We still have to wrap up the endings. It feels like saying goodbye to good friends, so I've procrastinated finishing it for-- I--don't--know--how--many--years--now. Maybe I should actually finish it...

Mithalwen · 11-03-2012, 01:12 PM

And maybe I should read it! Intrigued...
Also have a neglected rpg to work on..

morwen edhelwen · 11-09-2012, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

It is quite possible that they did find each other in or on release from Mandos but how would the songmakers of the Silvan realms know? They only know that they didn't come back. The Silvan elves have a different knowlege of and relationship to the Undying Land from the High Elves. They may be less aware of the fate of dead elves. Even Legolas who has better connections than most of his kind regards Galadriel's warning about the sea as speaking to him of his death. Maybe Nimrodel refused the summons to Mandos and her unhoused Fea lingers by her stream while Amroth waits in vain in Eressea.

Now that's sad.

Mithalwen · 11-09-2012, 12:35 PM

It is indeed, which leads me to suspect that it is the likelier scenario somehow - sundered fates seem very Tolkien-ish. While it would be nice to think of them reunited it is all too easy to imagine Nimrodel, reluctant no doubt to have left Lorien in the first place and not perhaps reallly understanding the summons choosing to linger where she had been happy once she was beyond physical danger. I don't know if Tolkien wrote anything more about them in HoME.. I shall have to "run and find out"

10-29-2012, 05:21 AM	#1
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Suicide wasn't encouraged, though, was it? I imagine Mandos would have taken a pretty dim view of it. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

11-01-2012, 11:07 AM	#3
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	" Imrazor the Numenorean, who "ruled" the area of Dol Amroth" Except it wouldn't have been called Dol Amroth at the time. Imrazor was Prince of Belfalas, which apparently was an established realm of the Faithful Numenoreans which predated Gondor (note his Adunaic name). __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

11-03-2012, 11:33 AM	#5
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Mithalwen, that was similar to the tack we took in "Friands of Nimrodel: Tapestry of Dreams." We had lots of fun, writing the ending to their story. We still have to wrap up the endings. It feels like saying goodbye to good friends, so I've procrastinated finishing it for-- I--don't--know--how--many--years--now. Maybe I should actually finish it... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

11-03-2012, 01:12 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	And maybe I should read it! Intrigued... Also have a neglected rpg to work on.. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-09-2012, 12:35 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	It is indeed, which leads me to suspect that it is the likelier scenario somehow - sundered fates seem very Tolkien-ish. While it would be nice to think of them reunited it is all too easy to imagine Nimrodel, reluctant no doubt to have left Lorien in the first place and not perhaps reallly understanding the summons choosing to linger where she had been happy once she was beyond physical danger. I don't know if Tolkien wrote anything more about them in HoME.. I shall have to "run and find out" __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace