Tapestry of Dreams, Part 2 Discussion - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 11-03-2012, 07:10 AM

Off topic. I want to hone my Anglo-Saxon terse speech. Sage advice?

littlemanpoet · 11-03-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

Off topic. I want to hone my Anglo-Saxon terse speech. Sage advice?

Read Anglo-Saxon out loud, then speak it in modern English, then read it again out loud. In other words, really get to know what you're saying. There's Beowulf, Ancrene Wisse, Pearl, Finnesburg, etc.

Or, if I have misunderstood you and what you mean is that you want to use Anglo-Saxon rooted words more in your speech, then it's a matter of learning to readily identify what's Greek, what's Latin, what's Norman French, what's modern French, as opposed to Old English. It's not very hard to do that. Is that what you meant?

mark12_30 · 11-03-2012, 10:46 AM

Yes and Yes.

I want to write more tersely-- again-- get back to the Rohirrim way of speaking.... and, simplify, simplify. More punch less francophication. 'Twould be well to speak thus.

So what's your advice for dodging greek, latin, and phrench?

mark12_30 · 11-03-2012, 11:28 AM

Mellondu is now asleep in the moss on the riverbank.

Elempi, if you'd like you can debrief the team by the pond and have them start downstream, and find Mellonu.

littlemanpoet · 11-03-2012, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

Yes and Yes.

I want to write more tersely-- again-- get back to the Rohirrim way of speaking.... and, simplify, simplify. More punch less francophication. 'Twould be well to speak thus.

So what's your advice for dodging greek, latin, and phrench?

Okay.

First thing is to "know your enemy". Recognize the typical shape and form of the borrowings.

Greek: many words ending in "os" or "as", or words that once did: logic, philosophy, any of the ology words. Anything medical usually comes from Greek, or a mix of Greek and Latin: "cardiovascular". Caritas. olympic, olympiad.

Latin: words from musical forms, such as "sonata". Any word ending in - -ous, -us, -um, -a, or -able, or -tion - - - is probably Latinate. Museum, marvelous, sonata, available. Many words having suffixes or prefixes that come from Latinate: Congress, community, proximity, association, festival.

Norman: beef, pork, ... any word that separates the clean from the dirty, as it were, or is a law word: warrant, bailliff

French: many words having "ou" in them, or bunches of vowels strung together (beautiful) or "gu": guarantee. unique.

English: swine. cattle. height. quote. Any strong verb: sit, sat; throw, threw. Many words with silent letters "gh".

Now, you tell me which of the pairings below is English and which is a borrowing from another language:

praise : glorify

colleague : partner

annual : yearly

foreigner : stranger : alien

punish : shrive

foe : enemy

many : several

littlemanpoet · 11-04-2012, 11:24 AM

In post # 235, is the "she" referred to, Mithrellas? It's a little hard to tell.

If I understand correctly, we need to bring everyone back to Marigold now, right? I'll figure that's right. After all, why else bring the horses all the way around? I'll write a post of travel soon.

piosenniel · 05-20-2015, 11:37 AM

Is this RPG ready to be moved to Elvenhome? Or???????

mark12_30 · 06-01-2015, 08:15 PM

Elempi, for "What's next" see this thread posts 928 and 929 (just on this page a bit upward.) Erebemlin needs to return to Marigold, most of the rest need to return home, and Mellondu needs to remain broken (what is his Frodo-sails-west parallel? Does Taitheneb adopt him for a few years ? Hmm, what do you think?)

Mellondu & Mellonin' s parents need to somehow resolve.

Maybe the whole thing needs an epilogue.

11-03-2012, 07:10 AM	#1
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Off topic. I want to hone my Anglo-Saxon terse speech. Sage advice? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

11-03-2012, 10:46 AM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Yes and Yes. I want to write more tersely-- again-- get back to the Rohirrim way of speaking.... and, simplify, simplify. More punch less francophication. 'Twould be well to speak thus. So what's your advice for dodging greek, latin, and phrench? __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

11-03-2012, 11:28 AM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Mellondu is now asleep in the moss on the riverbank. Elempi, if you'd like you can debrief the team by the pond and have them start downstream, and find Mellonu. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

05-20-2015, 11:37 AM	#7
piosenniel Desultory Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pickin' flowers with Bill the Cat..... Posts: 7,779	Is this RPG ready to be moved to Elvenhome? Or??????? __________________ Eldest, that’s what I am . . . I knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless - before the Dark Lord came from Outside.

06-01-2015, 08:15 PM	#8
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Elempi, for "What's next" see this thread posts 928 and 929 (just on this page a bit upward.) Erebemlin needs to return to Marigold, most of the rest need to return home, and Mellondu needs to remain broken (what is his Frodo-sails-west parallel? Does Taitheneb adopt him for a few years ? Hmm, what do you think?) Mellondu & Mellonin' s parents need to somehow resolve. Maybe the whole thing needs an epilogue. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

11-04-2012, 11:24 AM	#6
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	In post # 235, is the "she" referred to, Mithrellas? It's a little hard to tell. If I understand correctly, we need to bring everyone back to Marigold now, right? I'll figure that's right. After all, why else bring the horses all the way around? I'll write a post of travel soon.