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Old 12-01-2012, 10:54 PM   #1
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Players who showed suspicions of Pom:

Morsul: Consistently suspects Pom all Day and votes her. Either a misguided innocent or a baddie jumping on player who's a potential easy lynch.

Sally: Suspects her early on. I mentioned before that an innocent is more inclined to feel suspicious of someone who voted her, but that doesn't discount the possibility of a baddie taking advantage of the situation. Her vote for Pom doesn't mean much to me since her neck was on the chopping block at that point.

Inzil: Leaving alone for now.

Shasta: Dead and innocent.

Nerwen: Replies to Pom's disagreement and implication about her not wanting to spread out the votes. Nerwen's reply was understandable as I felt the same way. She doesn't openly suspect Pom though until the last moments of the Day, then votes her. That I do find suspicious.

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I don't know what to do with Morsul. So many of his comments and theories seem rather out there. But others say that's how he typically is, which isn't helpful. It could make him an easy lynch for the baddies, though if he were a baddie, the pack could use that to their favor.

Nerwen's vote for Pom is most worrying to me as her suspicions suddenly come at the very last minute.

I really don't know about Sally. I no longer feel as good about her, so she's moving into my 'not sure' category.

Edit: X-ed with the last few. Wow...okay.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:57 PM   #2
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Loslote, why would you (an unknown) receive a dream and not phantom or me (two known innocents). That just doesn't make sense.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:58 PM   #3
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Loslote, why would you (an unknown) receive a dream and not phantom or me (two known innocents). That just doesn't make sense.
Maybe Elendil didn't want to risk the dreamer being killed. I have no idea why me in particular.
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:04 PM   #4
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Yeah, but there were three known innocents to pick between. Shasta was most certain to be killed. Choosing one of the other two wouldn't be that risky, especially with the possibility that one of us is protected.

Inzil (assuming he's telling the truth) knows the identity of a gifted. If Elendil's alive, that would be him, right?

I need some time to unscramble my brain...
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Yeah, but there were three known innocents to pick between. Shasta was most certain to be killed. Choosing one of the other two wouldn't be that risky, especially with the possibility that one of us is protected.
Exactly. Personally, I'd have chosen you as the least likely of the three to be targeted.,
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Old 12-01-2012, 11:18 PM   #6
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Nerwen: Replies to Pom's disagreement and implication about her not wanting to spread out the votes. Nerwen's reply was understandable as I felt the same way. She doesn't openly suspect Pom though until the last moments of the Day, then votes her. That I do find suspicious.
I had a very limited time to make up my mind in, Brinn– and nobody looked *really* suspicious to me, except for Morsul, who always does.

As for the latest development–

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Exactly. Personally, I'd have chosen you as the least likely of the three to be targeted.,
I know– but what would a Wolflote have to gain by making up a story like that, though? When she could just fake-reveal?

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Btw, Inzil should definitely hold off on his information until Lottie reveals her's.
Unquestionably.

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story like that, though? When she could just fake-reveal?
Who knows?
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Extremely brief thoughts on the whole gifted situation.

It's clear we have two gifteds who have been eliminated: Boro and Shasta.

If Dun is lying, Amandil is still alive (unless someone else got information when Boro died and hasn't said anything, which doesn't seem terribly likely). I'm assuming that if Dun is lying, he's evil. I can think of a possible reason he might lie as a goodie, but I'm going to withhold that theory for the moment and see how the Day goes.

If Lottie is lying, our seer is dead, and she's a wolf. Plain and simple. We can't be sure whether her "dream" is an innocent or a packmate, but her role will be certain.

If Lottie and Dun are both telling the truth, then Shasta was clearly Amandil and Boro was either the ranger or Isildur. For obvious reasons, of the two options, I'd prefer it to be Isildur....

Hopefully I'll finish re-reading the thread before bed. Either way, I'll put up a list before I crash. Relatively certain Morsul is evil, but I don't know about the rest of you at all. Especially Lottie and Dun, at least right now. >.<


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Loslote, why would you (an unknown) receive a dream and not phantom or me (two known innocents). That just doesn't make sense.
I could possibly see not giving the dream to phantom, on the off-chance he might have been killed, but why indeed not Brinn?
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I could possibly see not giving the dream to phantom, on the off-chance he might have been killed, but why indeed not Brinn?
Honestly? I don't know. I have absolutely no clue.
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After all, when you do have a choice of two innocents, sending a dream to an unknown seems pretty darned risky.
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After all, when you do have a choice of two innocents, sending a dream to an unknown seems pretty darned risky.
I agree. It makes no sense - I can't count how often I've re-checked the pm to make sure I didn't read it wrong or imagined it or something.
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I agree. It makes no sense - I can't count how often I've re-checked the pm to make sure I didn't read it wrong or imagined it or something.
I'm going to pull the jerk move here and ask that you say what you know. Unlike Dun, there's no harm that can come from you sharing your information. We can mull over why you received the information all Day, but whether or not it's valid (and the implications of said validity) is what's important here.

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I'm going to pull the jerk move here and ask that you say what you know. Unlike Dun, there's no harm that can come from you sharing your information. We can mull over why you received the information all Day, but whether or not it's valid (and the implications of said validity) is what's important here.
And yet, watching wolves scramble when they know we know one of their own is so enlightening. I'd prefer to hold off for a while, until I can at least get a sense of how the individual players react.

If everyone insists on knowing, though, I'll share early - but I feel that we'd be losing out on valuable information if I give the name too quickly.
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I agree. It makes no sense - I can't count how often I've re-checked the pm to make sure I didn't read it wrong or imagined it or something.
No, it makes perfect sense. The most obvious choice for a kill would be phantom, so Elendil couldn't pick him. But then, the KMs know that and probably thought that Anarion was still alive. So then they might pick Shasta. But his gift means knowledge, so it would be a bad idea to kill him. So that leaves Brinn as the one to be killed. So, Elendil couldn't risk any of the three and just chose someone he found innocent. Or you could be a KM handing in one of your fellows.
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In theory...

If both Lottie and Inzil are telling the truth, then one knows a baddie and one knows Elendil. If Elendil revealed (which would no longer be so risky), that would be five known innocents and one known baddie. Which would make the village almost certain to win.

I don't know, I'm feeling rather skeptical...
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Btw, Inzil should definitely hold off on his information until Lottie reveals her's.
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So...I need to sleep, and soon. I'll be around in about nine hours. I'll wait until then to reveal the wolf - hopefully by then I'll be able to see some of the wolf and potential packmates' reactions and interactions. Good night, everyone.

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