WW CI - Mutton yesterDay, mutton toDay and mutton toMorrow - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Loslote · 01-28-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

This is a very brow raising comment. Are you strongly suggesting you know the role of another player? My "knowledge" was a hypothetical yours seems to be blatant to the point of "fighting any attempt"

I've done this before, both as an innocent and as a wolf, and I know Sally does it, too, in both roles. I don't find it suspicious.

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Also you've been very consistently and to be frank predictably voting me why the sudden change to Gil? Was your wagoning of me getting nowhere so you jumped on the gil train?

Um, really? You're suspecting someone for a) having consistent suspicions and b) voting off of Seer evidence?

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I don't like Lottie's behavior either but I think for today...

Care to elaborate?

Inziladun · 01-28-2013, 03:21 PM

Well, I voted for him yesterNight, and I've seen nothing toNight that convinces me I was wrong.

++Gil

Gil-Galad · 01-28-2013, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Well, I voted for him yesterNight, and I've seen nothing toNight that convinces me I was wrong.

++Gil

Wrong of what? That I am a wizard or that I am suspicious and uncertain?

I just feel glad that though I am an easy lynch, once everyone finds out that I am innocent, those that voted for me will be under the radar tomorrow.

Nogrod · 01-28-2013, 03:32 PM

Finally back, and only hastily skimming some parts of the posts I can see Gil getting the votes.

Now that wonders me not because of him being the common denominator between Volo's and Brinn's suspicions (although I must say that if the wolves thought Volo the seer there had to be another wolf he suspected heavily as his suspicion on Gil is not that much on a "secure footing").

And from the little I have gathered, Gil hasn't been especially helpful either in his own posts to cast away those suspicions.

I must join Zil's caution about Gil being the easy vote toDay, but then again I don't quite like the way he just states that and then votes for him quite immediately... I mean, yeah, I'm not sure I can stand above that standard myself (mostly because I haven't had time to read toDay fairly, but anyway). Giving as a reason that he voted for him yesterDay as well...

Give me a hint where to look at as it seems I'm not going to be able to read all in this half an hour we have left. Any other serious candidates and why? Especially "the why" would interest me.

EDIT: X'd with Gil & Morsul

Morsul the Dark · 01-28-2013, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

I've done this before, both as an innocent and as a wolf, and I know Sally does it, too, in both roles. I don't find it suspicious.

Um, really? You're suspecting someone for a) having consistent suspicions and b) voting off of Seer evidence?

Care to elaborate?

I did elaborate, she says Gil prbably wasn't dreamed then uses a possible dream for the basis of the vote.

As for consistency I feel she's been voting me practically every chance whether or not actually suspecting me, then when the wind starts blowing in Gils direction she goes with the winning(or losing) horse. If I'm her biggest worry (two out of three votes) why not vote me? The Gil vote feels ingenuine.

Morsul the Dark · 01-28-2013, 03:34 PM

Oh I missed the quote about you. I thought you meant elaborate on Sally

The biggest reason you, Lottie, worry me is the whole picking up on one maybe ill-worded hypathetical and running it straight the heck. What was bad about day two was both Oz and I were innocent which means we haven't been good at even suspecting wizards... I think though you started a good run on me and then Oz sort of dropped the nail on himself unfortunately.

Also Like I said about the Pom vote your vote position was the most likely to be wizardly.

x'ed Nog

Nogrod · 01-28-2013, 03:45 PM

I'm trying to find anything from the thread... Does anyone have a tally?

I mean is there a reason to try and check things, or is the voting clear already?

Loslote · 01-28-2013, 03:45 PM

Alright, I don't really have time to respond to Morsul, so I'll just have to go ahead and vote...

++Gil

More than just the Seer hints, his posting toDay looks half like a wolf trying to a) incriminate Nerwen or b) make her look good. It's odd that the two options have completely opposite outcomes, but they are both possible. The other half of his posting is simply, "when I'm lynched innocent, please kill the wolves", which is completely useless to the village as a whole, since he's just saying the same thing over and over - exactly the sort of thing a doomed wolf would do. He's not giving away any of his packmates by posting all that, but a doomed wolf doesn't want to go out silent. Posting something relatively useless that might just happen to make him look innocent enough to maybe save him? That screams wolf to me.

Gil-Galad · 01-28-2013, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

More than just the Seer hints, his posting toDay looks half like a wolf trying to a) incriminate Nerwen or b) make her look good. It's odd that the two options have completely opposite outcomes, but they are both possible. The other half of his posting is simply, "when I'm lynched innocent, please kill the wolves", which is completely useless to the village as a whole, since he's just saying the same thing over and over - exactly the sort of thing a doomed wolf would do. He's not giving away any of his packmates by posting all that, but a doomed wolf doesn't want to go out silent. Posting something relatively useless that might just happen to make him look innocent enough to maybe save him? That screams wolf to me.

Even though I posted numerous times that I have accepted my fate of being lynched. That whole paragraph is just weak reasoning to me being a wolf. Anyways, 2 minutes you shall find out.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-28-2013, 04:01 PM

DEADLINE.

Gil is lynched. Narration coming soon, and this time I hope sooner than usually, so you don't have to wait long

Legate of Amon Lanc · 01-28-2013, 04:31 PM

The next night started with Shaz waking up rather suddenly (to the great surprise of everyone) and announcing all that sleep made him hungry and that he was going to hunt, and also to look for missing Bane. Meanwhile, the other trolls were discussing poor Brin and trying to remember who she frowned at the most during the previous nights. After some deliberation, many seemed to recall she did not seem to be particularly fond of Gil. Knowing that she was clever, the conclusion was simple for the simple trolls.

"You're a wizzer, Gil," Cop announced the general consensus.
"I'm a wha'?" asked Gil, confused.
"A wizzer," said Nerve, stepping closer menacingly.
"A wizzer?" Gil's voice sounded even more disbelieving. "Bu' I'm jus' Gil!"
"Well, 'jus' Gil'," Sal interjected, "you're a wizzer."
"I'm a wha'?"
"A wizzer, Gil," said Rick.
"Bu' I'm not!" Gil protested. "I'm jus' Gil!"
"Well, 'jus' Gil', you're a wizzer!!!" Cab screamed and put his fist in Gil's eye. Gil staggered, but did not fall.
"I won't take that from you lot," he shouted and launched himself back at Cab, taking them both down to the floor and sweeping the legs from under Lad in the process.
"Help!" Cab yelled, but the other trolls did not need to be called to take part in such a thing. Soon Lot was in, and Nog, and others followed.

Then there was a gorgeous row. Soon, all the thirteen trolls were rolling on the floor, punching, kicking, biting and headbutting each other, and in the fury of the brawl many got bruises also from others than just from Gil. Needless to say, it took the remaining Wizards a lot of effort to stay out of harm's way and remain hidden at the same time under such circumstances, but fortunately the rest of the trolls were so furious that they likely would not have noticed even if a Wizards' disguise had faltered for a moment.

But Gil was alone, after all, and eventually, after much beating from the others, he remained lying on the floor, completely dead.

"Um, but shouldn't he turn back into a small wizzer?" asked Green as everyone else got back to their feet.
The trolls looked at each other, scratching their heads.
"Unless," said Mors, "he wasn't a wizzer?"

Kat looked longingly at the load of firewood prepared in the corner of the cave already since yesterday.

"That means we won't be havin' a wizzer for supper tonight, either," she said mournfully.

They had all completely forgotten about Shaz, who was still somewhere outside, wandering around the woods, following Bane's tracks, until the moment when the light came over the hills, and he turned to stone where he stood.

~*~

Dumb and Dead
Thinlómien, "Lom", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1
Legate of Amon Lanc, "Leg", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1
Pomegranate, "Pom", a Wizard, boiled and eaten on Day 1
Ozban, "Oz", an Ordinary Troll, crushed to death by a troll pyramid on Day 2
Volo, "Vol", Traitor Troll, magically opened up like a door on Night 3
Bane Mantra, "Bane", an Ordinary Troll, turned into stone while hunting (modfired) on Day 3
Boromir88, "Bore", Ordinary Troll, forgotten outside the cave and turned into stone on Day 3
Brinniel, "Brin", the Clever Troll, strangled to death with the assistance of magical studs on Night4
Gil-Galad, "Gil", an Ordinary Troll, beaten to death by his fellows on Day 4
Shastanis Althreduin, "Shaz", an Ordinary Troll, lost in search for Bane (modfired) on Day 4

Dumb and Walking
A Little Green, "Green"
Coppermirror, "Cop"
Inziladun, "Lad"
Kath, "Kat"
Loslote, "Lot"
McCaber, "Cab"
Morsul the Dark, "Mors"
Nerwen, "Nerve"
Nogrod, "Nog"
Rikae, "Rick"
satansaloser2005, "Sal"

~*~

Night 5 has started. Wizzers, make your plans. Insomniac and Purse-troll, send us your picks. Others, sleep well.

Thinlómien · 01-29-2013, 04:00 PM

It was noon and very dark in the troll cave. Not a single ray of sunshine pierced the darkness that protected the diminished tribe of trolls. Seven trolls were in deep sleep, exhausted after the fight in the early hours of the morning. One troll that could never sleep just sat in the dark, wavering between waking life and sleep, between vigilance and drowsiness. There was nothing to see in the dark, and too much to hear. The noise - as you must remember by now - of the trolls' snoring would have scared a way the fiercest pack of wolves. Unfortunately for the poor trolls, what they were facing was a pack of wizards.

A troll rolled over in his sleep and bumped into another. His fellow gave him a good kick, and momentarily the first troll awoke. He opened his eyes in the picth dark, closed them again and fell back into his dreamless slumber. Another troll was dreaming of roast dwarves, while one was having nightmares of the dúnadan ranger that had given her such a wound in her leg that she still limped a little, however well she hid it. All was dark and as peaceful as it ever could be in a troll cave.

Then suddenly there was a whistling noise, barely audible over the trolls' snores. A light appeared, speeding upwards. Then BOOM! All the trolls were suddenly wide awake. Red and green flowers of light were raining on them from the ceiling, accompanied by loud booms and pops. The smell of gunpowder hung in the air. In the faint light of the fireworks, the trolls could for a few seconds see the shapes of other trolls, sitting or standing up, frozen in amazement or terror. Then there was a loud CRACK and a thunderous tumult that could only mean part of the cave had collapsed.

For several minutes, chaos reigned. There were shouts of "Blimey!" and "Lemme out of here!" and "It's day outside ye booby!" and many curses so vile that it would make you shudder if you heard them. After a while, the trolls figured out that whatever had happened wasn't happening anymore and went to sleep. They slept uneasily, however, red and green sparks flying around in their minds, never granting them the usual peace of sleep.

When evening finally came and the first trolls awoke, they found out one corner of the cave had collapsed. After much arguing, they decided to clear the rubble: after all, they did not remember if they hadn't stored any food or valuables in that particular spot. It took them a few hours to remove the stones, and they didn't find anything they would've missed - instead they found the battered and lifeless body of poor Green. Even the stupidest of the trolls was able to reach the conclusion that the wizards had killed again.

~*~

Dumb and Dead
Thinlómien, "Lom", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1
Legate of Amon Lanc, "Leg", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1
Pomegranate, "Pom", a Wizard, boiled and eaten on Day 1
Ozban, "Oz", an Ordinary Troll, crushed to death by a troll pyramid on Day 2
Volo, "Vol", Traitor Troll, magically opened up like a door on Night 3
Bane Mantra, "Bane", an Ordinary Troll, turned into stone while hunting (modfired) on Day 3
Boromir88, "Bore", Ordinary Troll, forgotten outside the cave and turned into stone on Day 3
Brinniel, "Brin", the Clever Troll, strangled to death with the assistance of magical studs on Night4
Gil-Galad, "Gil", an Ordinary Troll, beaten to death by his fellows on Day 4
Shastanis Althreduin, "Shaz", an Ordinary Troll, lost in search for Bane (modfired) on Day 4
A Little Green, "Green", an Ordinary Troll, blown up with fireworks on Night 5

Dumb and Walking
Coppermirror, "Cop"
Inziladun, "Lad"
Kath, "Kat"
Loslote, "Lot"
McCaber, "Cab"
Morsul the Dark, "Mors"
Nerwen, "Nerve"
Nogrod, "Nog"
Rikae, "Rick"
satansaloser2005, "Sal"

~*~

Day 5 has started. Wizards, stop PMing. Everybody, feel free to discuss whatever you want to on this thread.

01-28-2013, 03:21 PM	#2
Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	Well, I voted for him yesterNight, and I've seen nothing toNight that convinces me I was wrong. ++Gil __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

01-28-2013, 03:32 PM	#4
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Finally back, and only hastily skimming some parts of the posts I can see Gil getting the votes. Now that wonders me not because of him being the common denominator between Volo's and Brinn's suspicions (although I must say that if the wolves thought Volo the seer there had to be another wolf he suspected heavily as his suspicion on Gil is not that much on a "secure footing"). And from the little I have gathered, Gil hasn't been especially helpful either in his own posts to cast away those suspicions. I must join Zil's caution about Gil being the easy vote toDay, but then again I don't quite like the way he just states that and then votes for him quite immediately... I mean, yeah, I'm not sure I can stand above that standard myself (mostly because I haven't had time to read toDay fairly, but anyway). Giving as a reason that he voted for him yesterDay as well... Give me a hint where to look at as it seems I'm not going to be able to read all in this half an hour we have left. Any other serious candidates and why? Especially "the why" would interest me. EDIT: X'd with Gil & Morsul __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-28-2013, 03:34 PM	#6
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Oh I missed the quote about you. I thought you meant elaborate on Sally The biggest reason you, Lottie, worry me is the whole picking up on one maybe ill-worded hypathetical and running it straight the heck. What was bad about day two was both Oz and I were innocent which means we haven't been good at even suspecting wizards... I think though you started a good run on me and then Oz sort of dropped the nail on himself unfortunately. Also Like I said about the Pom vote your vote position was the most likely to be wizardly. x'ed Nog __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

01-28-2013, 03:45 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I'm trying to find anything from the thread... Does anyone have a tally? I mean is there a reason to try and check things, or is the voting clear already? __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

01-28-2013, 03:45 PM	#8
Loslote The Werewolf's Companion Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Moon Posts: 3,021	Alright, I don't really have time to respond to Morsul, so I'll just have to go ahead and vote... ++Gil More than just the Seer hints, his posting toDay looks half like a wolf trying to a) incriminate Nerwen or b) make her look good. It's odd that the two options have completely opposite outcomes, but they are both possible. The other half of his posting is simply, "when I'm lynched innocent, please kill the wolves", which is completely useless to the village as a whole, since he's just saying the same thing over and over - exactly the sort of thing a doomed wolf would do. He's not giving away any of his packmates by posting all that, but a doomed wolf doesn't want to go out silent. Posting something relatively useless that might just happen to make him look innocent enough to maybe save him? That screams wolf to me. __________________ I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night. Double Fenris

01-28-2013, 04:01 PM	#10
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	DEADLINE. Gil is lynched. Narration coming soon, and this time I hope sooner than usually, so you don't have to wait long __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

01-28-2013, 04:31 PM	#11
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Day 4 morning The next night started with Shaz waking up rather suddenly (to the great surprise of everyone) and announcing all that sleep made him hungry and that he was going to hunt, and also to look for missing Bane. Meanwhile, the other trolls were discussing poor Brin and trying to remember who she frowned at the most during the previous nights. After some deliberation, many seemed to recall she did not seem to be particularly fond of Gil. Knowing that she was clever, the conclusion was simple for the simple trolls. "You're a wizzer, Gil," Cop announced the general consensus. "I'm a wha'?" asked Gil, confused. "A wizzer," said Nerve, stepping closer menacingly. "A wizzer?" Gil's voice sounded even more disbelieving. "Bu' I'm jus' Gil!" "Well, 'jus' Gil'," Sal interjected, "you're a wizzer." "I'm a wha'?" "A wizzer, Gil," said Rick. "Bu' I'm not!" Gil protested. "I'm jus' Gil!" "Well, 'jus' Gil', you're a wizzer!!!" Cab screamed and put his fist in Gil's eye. Gil staggered, but did not fall. "I won't take that from you lot," he shouted and launched himself back at Cab, taking them both down to the floor and sweeping the legs from under Lad in the process. "Help!" Cab yelled, but the other trolls did not need to be called to take part in such a thing. Soon Lot was in, and Nog, and others followed. Then there was a gorgeous row. Soon, all the thirteen trolls were rolling on the floor, punching, kicking, biting and headbutting each other, and in the fury of the brawl many got bruises also from others than just from Gil. Needless to say, it took the remaining Wizards a lot of effort to stay out of harm's way and remain hidden at the same time under such circumstances, but fortunately the rest of the trolls were so furious that they likely would not have noticed even if a Wizards' disguise had faltered for a moment. But Gil was alone, after all, and eventually, after much beating from the others, he remained lying on the floor, completely dead. "Um, but shouldn't he turn back into a small wizzer?" asked Green as everyone else got back to their feet. The trolls looked at each other, scratching their heads. "Unless," said Mors, "he wasn't a wizzer?" Kat looked longingly at the load of firewood prepared in the corner of the cave already since yesterday. "That means we won't be havin' a wizzer for supper tonight, either," she said mournfully. They had all completely forgotten about Shaz, who was still somewhere outside, wandering around the woods, following Bane's tracks, until the moment when the light came over the hills, and he turned to stone where he stood. ~~ Dumb and Dead Thinlómien, "Lom", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1 Legate of Amon Lanc, "Leg", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1 Pomegranate, "Pom", a Wizard, boiled and eaten on Day 1 Ozban, "Oz", an Ordinary Troll, crushed to death by a troll pyramid on Day 2 Volo, "Vol", Traitor Troll, magically opened up like a door on Night 3 Bane Mantra, "Bane", an Ordinary Troll, turned into stone while hunting (modfired) on Day 3 Boromir88, "Bore", Ordinary Troll, forgotten outside the cave and turned into stone on Day 3 Brinniel, "Brin", the Clever Troll, strangled to death with the assistance of magical studs on Night4 Gil-Galad, "Gil", an Ordinary Troll, beaten to death by his fellows on Day 4 Shastanis Althreduin, "Shaz", an Ordinary Troll, lost in search for Bane (modfired) on Day 4 Dumb and Walking A Little Green, "Green" Coppermirror, "Cop" Inziladun, "Lad" Kath, "Kat" Loslote, "Lot" McCaber, "Cab" Morsul the Dark, "Mors" Nerwen, "Nerve" Nogrod, "Nog" Rikae, "Rick" satansaloser2005, "Sal" ~~ Night 5 has started. Wizzers, make your plans. Insomniac and Purse-troll, send us your picks. Others, sleep well.

01-29-2013, 04:00 PM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Night falls, Day 5 starts It was noon and very dark in the troll cave. Not a single ray of sunshine pierced the darkness that protected the diminished tribe of trolls. Seven trolls were in deep sleep, exhausted after the fight in the early hours of the morning. One troll that could never sleep just sat in the dark, wavering between waking life and sleep, between vigilance and drowsiness. There was nothing to see in the dark, and too much to hear. The noise - as you must remember by now - of the trolls' snoring would have scared a way the fiercest pack of wolves. Unfortunately for the poor trolls, what they were facing was a pack of wizards. A troll rolled over in his sleep and bumped into another. His fellow gave him a good kick, and momentarily the first troll awoke. He opened his eyes in the picth dark, closed them again and fell back into his dreamless slumber. Another troll was dreaming of roast dwarves, while one was having nightmares of the dúnadan ranger that had given her such a wound in her leg that she still limped a little, however well she hid it. All was dark and as peaceful as it ever could be in a troll cave. Then suddenly there was a whistling noise, barely audible over the trolls' snores. A light appeared, speeding upwards. Then BOOM! All the trolls were suddenly wide awake. Red and green flowers of light were raining on them from the ceiling, accompanied by loud booms and pops. The smell of gunpowder hung in the air. In the faint light of the fireworks, the trolls could for a few seconds see the shapes of other trolls, sitting or standing up, frozen in amazement or terror. Then there was a loud CRACK and a thunderous tumult that could only mean part of the cave had collapsed. For several minutes, chaos reigned. There were shouts of "Blimey!" and "Lemme out of here!" and "It's day outside ye booby!" and many curses so vile that it would make you shudder if you heard them. After a while, the trolls figured out that whatever had happened wasn't happening anymore and went to sleep. They slept uneasily, however, red and green sparks flying around in their minds, never granting them the usual peace of sleep. When evening finally came and the first trolls awoke, they found out one corner of the cave had collapsed. After much arguing, they decided to clear the rubble: after all, they did not remember if they hadn't stored any food or valuables in that particular spot. It took them a few hours to remove the stones, and they didn't find anything they would've missed - instead they found the battered and lifeless body of poor Green. Even the stupidest of the trolls was able to reach the conclusion that the wizards had killed again. ~~ Dumb and Dead Thinlómien, "Lom", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1 Legate of Amon Lanc, "Leg", dispatched by the Wizards as a threat on Night 1 Pomegranate, "Pom", a Wizard, boiled and eaten on Day 1 Ozban, "Oz", an Ordinary Troll, crushed to death by a troll pyramid on Day 2 Volo, "Vol", Traitor Troll, magically opened up like a door on Night 3 Bane Mantra, "Bane", an Ordinary Troll, turned into stone while hunting (modfired) on Day 3 Boromir88, "Bore", Ordinary Troll, forgotten outside the cave and turned into stone on Day 3 Brinniel, "Brin", the Clever Troll, strangled to death with the assistance of magical studs on Night4 Gil-Galad, "Gil", an Ordinary Troll, beaten to death by his fellows on Day 4 Shastanis Althreduin, "Shaz", an Ordinary Troll, lost in search for Bane (modfired) on Day 4 A Little Green, "Green", an Ordinary Troll, blown up with fireworks on Night 5 Dumb and Walking Coppermirror, "Cop" Inziladun, "Lad" Kath, "Kat" Loslote, "Lot" McCaber, "Cab" Morsul the Dark, "Mors" Nerwen, "Nerve" Nogrod, "Nog" Rikae, "Rick" satansaloser2005, "Sal" ~~ Day 5 has started. Wizards, stop PMing. Everybody, feel free to discuss whatever you want to on this thread.