Riddles in the Downs

[Ardent]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

... onto the other...

So the other has at least two things in common with the known character. All we know is:
"... the spears that were made for the armies of the great King Bladorthin (long since dead), each had a thrice-forged head and their shafts were inlaid with cunning gold, but they were never delivered or paid for..."

Possible links are:

1. spears
2. something forged, maybe more than once
3. something inlaid with gold
4. something never delivered
5. something never paid for
6. something found in the hoard of Smaug.
   
   

Smaug was probably responsible for the non-delivery of the spears, so our mystery guest is [7] long dead or long born pre-Smaug.

The subject is also fated to 'Black pit' (Moria? The Void?),
and something has been said about that fate,
has a throne (or final resting place?) in cold, dark stone
has some majestic quality (Royalty? The first of a type?)
has a proper name, rather than a title alone.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I am sort of wondering if I should comment at all, or let you do your brainstorming regardless where it takes you Your choice - ...

I'm not sure how I'd handle being in your shoes either. I'm content however you choose to respond. It's good to know you're still keeping an eye on the thread though.

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[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, I think I can just do the thing I do usually, and comment at least in a general way on whatever is posted here. I have said already before that earlier on, lots of very good remarks have been made earlier on this thread by some people. You might also try to find gaps in your own reasoning in there.

Ardent, your post, for instance, is a good summary, certainly making good effort to create a system in it, I should point out only that somewhere in your post, there is one assumption you make which, if you read the riddle properly from start to the end, does not really exactly reflect the whole truth. (That was very diplomatically phrased, but that's exactly what it is Find for yourself. Or just ignore it and try different approaches, whichever you prefer.)

That's not to say that everything besides that one assumption is correct, but the thing I'm pointing out it something you might realise if you check with the riddle - i.e. should be able to figure out with the information you have. But again, don't spend a day trying to look for it, it isn't crucial that you get that thing right (it concerns only one of the many ways you can get to the correct answer). But if you do, it might bring some interesting revelations. Hm, I could also mention that on top of that, the topic has been touched on here earlier on.

I hope I managed to confuse you enough with this post. Apologies

[Morsul the Dark]

Thorin doesn't fit the riddle but fun fACT Gandalf was originally the name of thorin... Bladorthin was Gandalf's original name...