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Old 04-14-2013, 02:00 PM   #1
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Come on, hurt at least the silly bat, do you see how much she has? It's ridiculous.
I think you misspelled glorious.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:03 PM   #2
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Hurt Vaire & Goldberry
Heal Aredhel

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (3)
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Nerdanel (5)
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Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
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Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:05 PM   #3
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Just because you picture Thuringwethil as Kristen Stewart doesn't mean we all do, laddie...
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Just because you picture Thuringwethil as Kristen Stewart doesn't mean we all do, laddie...
Ewww. I don't! I imagine her as ugly and old Kristen Stewart with long fingernails* and bat wings.

*Any similarity to any persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental and it had been so basically since I have read David Day's Tolkien's Bestiary.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:12 PM   #5
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*bats wings*

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(however, the Finnish word for a bat also means girls who like girls)

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Old 04-14-2013, 02:19 PM   #6
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Based upon Tolkien text evidence though, you're right that she doesn't deserve the title on verifiable accomplishment- but you can't say she deserves it less than Vaire. She's just as flat a character as Thuringwethil, but rather than "flying message-carrying vampire" she's "sewing lady", which seems more boring to me.

Basically, Thuringwethil has a very shaky base on which to build, but it's a fantastic base (flying + vampire), thus the possibility of constructing a marvelous character.

Now Goldberry we've actually seen a bit thanks to Frodo's detour, so she's justifiable- I won't say she's not at all. But then it depends on taste when it comes to that- I recall she and Tom had an allure that was "nearer to the mortal heart" or some such, rather than "keen and lofty" like elves etc. So then the question is, do you identify more with Hobbits and men, or with the Noldor?
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:22 PM   #7
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Kill Vaire
Hurt Goldberry
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Thuringwethil (9)
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Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:26 PM   #8
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Heal Thuringwethil
Kill Goldberry
Hurt Nerdanel

Thuringwethil (10)
Aredhel (3)
Nerdanel (6)

DEAD
Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
Elwing- wings clipped by TP
Goldberry- eaten by AGANZIR

Now everyone has either a hurt or a heal left.
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:29 PM   #9
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:35 PM   #10
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And that's exactly it. Typical stereotype. A sewing lady (who makes the tapestry of history, nonetheless!) is less interesting than a winged vampire.
Yes, well, what's that quote about awful/scary things making for long, interesting stories, but years of beauty and peace are swiftly summarized in a sentence or two...

Certainly there's a part of me that is uncomfortable with that, but it remains true for the most part. Thuringwethil was a player in the middle of a long and bloody conflict, while Vaire hung about in Valinor. The potential is just so far apart for interesting/cool stories we could invent.

That isn't to say that I wouldn't be fond of Vaire in real life- she could have a fun sense of humor and possess other talents and a pleasant disposition. So if this contest were for naming, "Which people do you want at your dinner-party?" then I'd vote for her over Thuringwethil most likely. The vampire would just be too great a risk, what with my tasty jugular and all...
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Basically, Thuringwethil has a very shaky base on which to build, but it's a fantastic base (flying + vampire), thus the possibility of constructing a marvelous character.
And that's exactly it. Typical stereotype. A sewing lady (who makes the tapestry of history, nonetheless!) is less interesting than a winged vampire.

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Now Goldberry we've actually seen a bit thanks to Frodo's detour, so she's justifiable- I won't say she's not at all. But then it depends on taste when it comes to that- I recall she and Tom had an allure that was "nearer to the mortal heart" or some such, rather than "keen and lofty" like elves etc. So then the question is, do you identify more with Hobbits and men, or with the Noldor?
Hey, but have you seen Frodo's impression of her? Totally Elvish. (And Frodo was more Elvish than Hobbittish, I would say, comparing his taste of things to that of Sam and all, they were the Hobbits, but he really was pretty Elvish in general. Definitely Elvish for a Hobbit, but even for a "human".)
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:17 PM   #12
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Thanks for that mental image, Legate....

Hurt Goldberry and Aredhel. Heal Nerdanel.

Thuringwethil (9)
Goldberry (2)
Aredhel (4)
Nerdanel (6)
Vairë (2)

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Galadriel- phialed off by TP
Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
Elwing- wings clipped by TP

x'd with Agan's intriguing Finnish lesson
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Old 04-14-2013, 02:19 PM   #13
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Thanks for that mental image, Legate....
It was TP who started it! *points*
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Heal Thuringwethil
Hurt Vairë and Nerdanel
Because out of Aredhel and Nerdanel, I kind of like Aredhel better. It's a really tough choice though.

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Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
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Rosie- finished by TP
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Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
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Idril- offed by TP
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Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
Elwing- wings clipped by TP
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Hurt Goldberry and Aredhel. Heal Nerdanel.

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Ungoliant- swatted by TP
Andreth- aged by TP
Ioreth- quieted by TP
Nienor- mercy-killed by TP
Nienna- left crying by TP
Yavanna- pruned by TP
Idril- offed by TP
Lobelia- umbrella-ed by TP
Shelob- stepped on by TP
Erendis- drowned by TP
Rosie- finished by TP
Vana- weeded out by TP
Elwing- wings clipped by TP
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I think you misspelled glorious.
Not going to argue, sufficient to say, she should have been gone a looong time ago. In any case, she is the one of all the present ladies who deserves it the least.
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Not going to argue, sufficient to say, she should have been gone a looong time ago. In any case, she is the one of all the present ladies who deserves it the least.
But she's not, which tells you something about how others than you view her.

Phantom, I may be the first person ever to say this, but you're quite witty and funny.
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