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Estelyn Telcontar · 06-28-2013, 06:11 AM

There's certainly not as much excitement, coupled with the desire to discuss various aspects, about this movie. There's much more Peter Jackson than Tolkien in The Hobbit, which is fine for fans of the former and not as much so for the readers of the latter...

Still around, just not as vociferous as 10 years ago.

Snowdog · 06-29-2013, 01:49 AM

I think in 2000-01 there was this aura of what Middle Earth would look like and all, whereas, that has been established by the earlier movies, and now it's just more of the same. Also, PJ had to worry about whether his movies would be a success back in 2000 when he filmed them all, whereas, he was sure it would be at least somewhat successful this time and could take his blatant liberties with the story.

mark12_30 · 10-05-2013, 08:07 AM

I'm going to enjoy the Hobbit movies, despite Radagast' s, erm, hair. It's an excuse for me to skim the books again, and ponder Thranduil' s psyche. Anyone read the article (TORn) that Mirkwood was partly a reflection of Thranduil' attitudes? Creative.

mark12_30 · 10-05-2013, 01:35 PM

Thranduil, The Fisher King and Oberon; Why It Matters

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013...hy-it-matters/

Bêthberry · 10-05-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

Thranduil, The Fisher King and Oberon; Why It Matters

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013...hy-it-matters/

Interesting to see how the actors--or one actor--prepared for their roles. However, I don't see any research here that links any of this to Tolkien.

mark12_30 · 10-06-2013, 12:16 AM

There may not be any. I just thought it was fun. At least the actor linked it with faerie and not Disney or worse. I guess it reminded me of Lmp' s thread "It feels different near the Shire." I liked the faerie in it.

Getting pretty casual in my old age. Hear the owls? Have a glass....

Bêthberry · 10-07-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mark12_30

There may not be any. I just thought it was fun. At least the actor linked it with faerie and not Disney or worse. I guess it reminded me of Lmp' s thread "It feels different near the Shire." I liked the faerie in it.

Getting pretty casual in my old age. Hear the owls? Have a glass....

And I guess I'm getting pretty suspicious of anything from TORN in my old age. Yours sounds kinder and more generous.

Tolkien disliked Shakespeare's fairies and had a kind of grudge against Celtic/Arthurian legends, so that's what made me suspicious. But you are right that it is preferable to take a cue from them rather than from Disney.

By the way, I really enjoy Smith of Wootton Major. It think I like it's fairie more than the aspects of it in LotR.

Tea?

06-28-2013, 06:11 AM	#1
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	There's certainly not as much excitement, coupled with the desire to discuss various aspects, about this movie. There's much more Peter Jackson than Tolkien in The Hobbit, which is fine for fans of the former and not as much so for the readers of the latter... Still around, just not as vociferous as 10 years ago. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

10-05-2013, 08:07 AM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	I'm going to enjoy the Hobbit movies, despite Radagast' s, erm, hair. It's an excuse for me to skim the books again, and ponder Thranduil' s psyche. Anyone read the article (TORn) that Mirkwood was partly a reflection of Thranduil' attitudes? Creative. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 10-06-2013 at 12:24 AM.

10-05-2013, 01:35 PM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Thranduil, The Fisher King and Oberon; Why It Matters http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2013...hy-it-matters/ __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

10-06-2013, 12:16 AM	#6
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	There may not be any. I just thought it was fun. At least the actor linked it with faerie and not Disney or worse. I guess it reminded me of Lmp' s thread "It feels different near the Shire." I liked the faerie in it. Getting pretty casual in my old age. Hear the owls? Have a glass.... __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

06-29-2013, 01:49 AM	#2
Snowdog Emperor of the South Pole Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The Western Shore of Lake Evendim Posts: 667	I think in 2000-01 there was this aura of what Middle Earth would look like and all, whereas, that has been established by the earlier movies, and now it's just more of the same. Also, PJ had to worry about whether his movies would be a success back in 2000 when he filmed them all, whereas, he was sure it would be at least somewhat successful this time and could take his blatant liberties with the story.