A Barrow Downs Charity Idea - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Mithalwen · 11-01-2013, 11:18 PM

I have used the Good gifts catalogue for years which guarantees that the money is used as described and is wanted by 5he community.

Can an organisation really be evangelist an non proselytising? Seems unlikely that both could be true.

It is a nice idea but it might also waste a lot of money in exchange and transfer fees.

Bêthberry · 11-02-2013, 09:14 AM

Kitanna, I've been told that paypal will not make deductions for gifts--as opposed to sales agreements--but I'm checking out their policies to determine other costs with them. I have a paypal account folks could use. I've written to World Vision to see if they have a payment site of their own we could use directly.

Hi Mithalwen! Thanks for your comments.

On the Facebook page, several members have spoken in praise of World Vision, having used it before and in one case, often. In the link I provided, World Vision provides a chart describing how it's resources are attributed. 81% of revenues goes to the program, a little under 14% goes to fundraising, and slightly more than 5% goes to admin. From what I've read about such charities, World Vision has a very good if not excellent track record. It's mission statement claims that it helps people regardless of religion, which to me means no strings attached. I don't doubt that there are Christians who help others without shouting about their faith to the rooftops, the point being their own work and faith in action rather than persuading others, but I wasn't looking specifically for a Christian charity, just one applicable and reliable. *shrugs*

But I'll check out Good Gifts and see if folks on FB would prefer it. There's a larger response on the FB page.

Mithalwen · 11-02-2013, 03:41 PM

I wasn't advocating goodgifts over world vision just commenting that I had used them. And I am not antI Christian charities - one of my main ones is, just the evangelism, I am a bit chary of, especially in the developing world, maybe Brits of my generation are a bit paranoid about imperialism even if just cultural...

Mithalwen · 11-13-2013, 02:11 AM

Disregard my comments since in the light of the huge and immediate need, while I think the joint gift is a sweet idea, I shall be giving what I can afford to Shelterbox, a charity I know and trust and which has already started distributing in the Phillipines. Given that two of our Phillipine downers inexplicably buy enchantingly adopted me as their cybermum it seemed the obvious thing for me personally.

Bêthberry · 11-13-2013, 05:16 AM

Splendid idea, Mithalwen! Thanks for telling us about this charity and the idea.

Nerwen · 11-13-2013, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bêthberry

Splendid idea, Mithalwen! Thanks for telling us about this charity and the idea.

I’d also be happy to do this instead, under the circumstances.

Mithalwen · 11-13-2013, 12:35 PM

My father was a rotarian and Rotary is a partner organisation. They really do marvellous work.
Www.shelterbox.org

There are affiliate organisation in Canada, the States, and Aus though no doubt there are other worthy options. For me the virtue of shelterbox scheme is that through Rotary it can work with local networks of charitably inclined indiviuals.

11-01-2013, 11:18 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I have used the Good gifts catalogue for years which guarantees that the money is used as described and is wanted by 5he community. Can an organisation really be evangelist an non proselytising? Seems unlikely that both could be true. It is a nice idea but it might also waste a lot of money in exchange and transfer fees. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-02-2013, 09:14 AM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Kitanna, I've been told that paypal will not make deductions for gifts--as opposed to sales agreements--but I'm checking out their policies to determine other costs with them. I have a paypal account folks could use. I've written to World Vision to see if they have a payment site of their own we could use directly. Hi Mithalwen! Thanks for your comments. On the Facebook page, several members have spoken in praise of World Vision, having used it before and in one case, often. In the link I provided, World Vision provides a chart describing how it's resources are attributed. 81% of revenues goes to the program, a little under 14% goes to fundraising, and slightly more than 5% goes to admin. From what I've read about such charities, World Vision has a very good if not excellent track record. It's mission statement claims that it helps people regardless of religion, which to me means no strings attached. I don't doubt that there are Christians who help others without shouting about their faith to the rooftops, the point being their own work and faith in action rather than persuading others, but I wasn't looking specifically for a Christian charity, just one applicable and reliable. shrugs But I'll check out Good Gifts and see if folks on FB would prefer it. There's a larger response on the FB page. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-02-2013, 03:41 PM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	I wasn't advocating goodgifts over world vision just commenting that I had used them. And I am not antI Christian charities - one of my main ones is, just the evangelism, I am a bit chary of, especially in the developing world, maybe Brits of my generation are a bit paranoid about imperialism even if just cultural... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-13-2013, 02:11 AM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Disregard my comments since in the light of the huge and immediate need, while I think the joint gift is a sweet idea, I shall be giving what I can afford to Shelterbox, a charity I know and trust and which has already started distributing in the Phillipines. Given that two of our Phillipine downers inexplicably buy enchantingly adopted me as their cybermum it seemed the obvious thing for me personally. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

11-13-2013, 05:16 AM	#5
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	Splendid idea, Mithalwen! Thanks for telling us about this charity and the idea. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.

11-13-2013, 12:35 PM	#7
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	My father was a rotarian and Rotary is a partner organisation. They really do marvellous work. Www.shelterbox.org There are affiliate organisation in Canada, the States, and Aus though no doubt there are other worthy options. For me the virtue of shelterbox scheme is that through Rotary it can work with local networks of charitably inclined indiviuals. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 11-13-2013 at 12:41 PM.