T-I-G CIV: Spambot Apocalypse (Game Thread)

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I am a wolf.

Good enough for me!

++Galad......

Nah.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The above is assuming the R.A.N.G.E.R. misses all protections, though.

Let's hope for better luck than that.
We don't know the number of the bots, but it's really not that important. Concentrate on getting one at a time and go from there.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

So let me start of with the first raised eyebrow (it probably does not qualify as an acusation):

Probably? Accusation? Raised eyebrow is enough; that whole (explanation) wasn't really necessary. Then, Probably? As in, allowing for a possibility that this can go as an accusation? Or that you don't know? And, if it goes as an accusation, it's the worst one I've seen in all my games. Already on defense without any attack? Hmm.

Originally Posted by Rune

Clarification is nice, but not something we should deal with here, and it these sort of request that can easily be used as a smokescreen.

Agreed about the potential smokescreen, though it's a double-sided very flimsy thing and can't be looked on as definite, but why not here? Clarifications are done over game threads all the time. I don't get the issue. Mind explaining?

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

If we can believe the narrations, there's a TomBot and a LucyBot, meaning there's two bad guys. However, we have a fair amount of people, so I wonder if we couldn't expect three? I'm inclined to think, with eleven people, three baddies might be a bit harsh (they'd only have to survive two lynches), so I'm going to operate, at least for now, on the assumption that we have two baddies.

Myself, I'd go with the whole 3. I hope for 2, but I don't expect it to happen, to avoid a bot you never thought existed biting your head off.

[Boromir88]

I am a wolf.~G55

I'd rather we have wolves. Spambots are nasty business. Years I've spent honing my wolf lynching skills, only to now have spammers. How do you even begin finding the bots?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'd rather we have wolves. Spambots are nasty business. Years I've spent honing my wolf lynching skills, only to now have spammers. How do you even begin finding the bots?

This reaction is interesting. The last sentence is conceivably a Hacker giving the bots a nod across a crowded room. I'd think Boro would be more subtle than that, but such hinting is difficult to achieve and dangerous to attempt.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

This reaction is interesting. The last sentence is conceivably a Hacker giving the bots a nod across a crowded room. I'd think Boro would be more subtle than that, but such hinting is difficult to achieve and dangerous to attempt.

Hey, last game I played in the cobbler inserted the phrase similar to "I'm a cobbler! Don't kill me!" into his post and just masked it in the context. With a cobbler, go figure what's a hint and what is simple conversation. On the bright side, the wolves have no advantage over the innocents in this, so everyone is on even ground when looking at a potential cobbler/hacker hint.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Almost panicked deadline is at noon gmt? Or Midnight GMT... or to make it easier it's in about 13 hours not 1 right?

A little over 13 hours, yes.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Zil, maybe I'm not seeing what you see... What part of Boro's post could be a hacker hint? Feels like all banter to me.

It could have been just banter, but what I meant was this:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

How do you even begin finding the bots?

Nothing concrete, just something to keep in mind.

x/d with Morsul

[Galadriel55]

For lack of anything better, I'll scrunitize the reactions to my first post. Might as well, right? Everyone else is welcome to do one parallel to mine, and then we can compare. Makes for a good starting point.

[Galadriel55]

This is in chronological order. Warning: the quotes are taken out of context to keep it brief.

Originally Posted by G55

I am a wolf.

Shasta ignores it.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Good enough for me!

++Galad......

Nah.

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I'd rather we have wolves. Spambots are nasty business. Years I've spent honing my wolf lynching skills, only to now have spammers. How do you even begin finding the bots?

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

But are you A spambot?

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Though we could take G55's "I'm a wolf" comment at face value like hahaha see a wolf wouldn't actually say that.

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Highly doubtful a bot would say that, unless they wanted to give the seer a good target. G55 is up to something though, it seems.

So, what can I conclude? In reality, nothing, since this is too much in the field of banter and too far from the real stuff. Now that I've started this analysis, I don't actually want to do it. Bugger. Anything that can be gleamed is soooo grasping straws. But it could make a starting point for a discussion, so for argument's sake and not for the sake of suspicion.

Shasta's response, or, rather, lack of such, is either perfectly normal ("this is silly banter, I'm not taking part in it") or perfectly suspicious ("voicing my thoughts on this matter is dangerous as it could give away some true feelings, so silence is best"). Or maybe he just shrugged the whole thing off as a joke and didn't bother joking back. Who knows.

Inziladun and Boro take it as a joke, but in different ways. Inzil goes for the content, Boro for the wording. Morsul echoes Boro in this sense, but he doesn't mention his prior wolf hunting skills that Boro laments about. No joke comparison to the other enemy. Morsul has a good point later, because I would totally do that as a wolf, despite what Inzil replies to that. Also, after Morsul proposes a literal, face-value meaning, Zil goes to say that I'm "up to something". Ah, so it's not plain banter anymore. Interesting turn.



Ok, I'm done. It's something from nothing, though admittedly not much of a something. Go on, discuss.

EDIT: xed with 2 Zils.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Shasta ignores it.


Shasta's response, or, rather, lack of such, is either perfectly normal ("this is silly banter, I'm not taking part in it") or perfectly suspicious ("voicing my thoughts on this matter is dangerous as it could give away some true feelings, so silence is best"). Or maybe he just shrugged the whole thing off as a joke and didn't bother joking back. Who knows.

Just thought though what if Shasta wrote it off as banter because he knows for a fact it was, IE he's a spammie?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

This is the example of the Cobbler-y behavior (from G55) I was talking about. Hard to tell how "realistically" interpret it, but still, with the little we have, I find it disturbing. It looks like trying to get the Spambots' attention. Well.

...You know Zil and I were discussing a game that didn't happen yet, right?

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Just thought though what if Shasta wrote it off as banter because he knows for a fact it was, IE he's a spammie?

Not exactly what I was thinking. It was banter for a fact regardless of anyone's role. And, while of course he could be a bot, he could also not be a bot. This is very inconclusive.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

...You know Zil and I were discussing a game that didn't happen yet, right?

Okay, in fact, I did not get it. My bad. It was with the context of the rest of the posts, or in fact, especially the self-confession and such, that it looked really wrong. But now upon re-reading your posts, they look rather normal. Okay. Well, back to the evaluation. Where are the rest of the people, anyway? Well, there's still like half a day, right?

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Just a short remarc from me before i sign off...

So Galadriel is stealing the thunder, this kind of behaviour is infuriating. It can at times be helpful, but mostly it just results in confusion that bots/wolves can hide in.

My guess is that people don't want to vote for an active person on day one, and under any circumstances it would be wise to look furter than Galadriel.

Despite Legate's remarc earlier he seem relatively harmless, or rather he does not seem overly suspicious.

Weather or not Morsul is his usual self, I cannot judge. Very active, but nothing special. Probably just a result of this being day 1.

I want to say something about Boromir as well, but I cannot.

See ya.