WW CV: They Should Make a Movie About This! (Game Thread)

[Thinlómien]

(leaving out myself, Kitanna and Shasta, as well as the dead, for obvious reasons)

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Nerwen and Boro

Day 1 - Nerwen jokingly points out the rule of three would condemn Boro. Discussion about Nerwen's broken banter link.

Day 2 - Boro starts the Day by saying that not only Sally's but also Nerwen's actions before the DL on Day1 look fishy. He mentions her in a voting recap. Then he mentions again that her vote did not sit right with him and that it's unlikely she and Sally are in cahoots. (At this point, I personally found it weird he voted Lottie not Nerwen, because he had been talking about Nerwen being suspicious from the beginning of the Day.) Nerwen retaliates by pointing out various illogical/fishy things Boro has said on the same Day.

Day 3 - after my reveal, Boro says he wishes he had voted Nerwen the Day before and votes her now.

Thoughts: Like I said above, I find it a little fishy that Boro didn't go for Nerwen on Day2 even though she seemed like his main suspect until he decided that Lottie's vote the Day before looked worse after all. They don't still do each other much favours on Day2, but that hardly tells us anything as both of them are capable of much more dramatic wolf-on-wolf backstabbing.

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Nerwen and Cop

Day 1 - Nerwen points out the rule of three would condemn Cop. They banter. In a list post, Cop says there's not much to go on on Nerwen and files her under "no idea about".

Day 2 - Cop says it's unlikely Nerwen is packmates with Sally because she defended her so openly.

Day 3 - Discussion about voting patterns, and a longer discussion about Kitanna's maniac reveal.

Thoughts: There is a lot of easy chatter between the two, as if they were on especially amiable terms, for example chatting with each other during Night phases and simply continuing that on the thread. (Before you say this sounds far-fetched, I say it's happened before.) It could of course just be normal chatter between two people who get along (possibly because Nerwen's trying to buddy up with Cop) and/or happen to be around at the same time when not so many others are.

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Nerwen and Sally

Day 1 - Nerwen jokingly points out the rule of three would condemn Sally. Sally half-seriously encourages Nerwen to break her track record of not voting on Day1. Nerwen wonders why Sally has two votes and Sally points the finger at me and Greenie. Nerwen would rather not see Sally lynched and ergo votes Kitanna. Sally makes fun of her not formatting the vote right.

Day 2 - Nerwen basically says that Greenie's death points at Sally, but doesn't. Suggests Sally was framed.

Day 3 - nothing yet.

Thoughts: what the mordor?? This makes me more confused than anything else. Either Nerwen is artfully latching onto innocent Sally to a) make herself look better if Sally dies and is discovered innocent or b) make Sally look suspicious if Nerwen herself dies and is discovered guilty, or then these are two wolves hiding out in the open. I'm almost more inclined to think the first option is true.

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Nerwen and Kath

Day 1 - Nerwen expresses shock about Kath being active on Day1.

Day 2 - In a voting recap, Kath says about Nerwen: "Nerwen --> Kitanna ~ Potentially pushing for the maniac to join the wolves." Kath, can you clarify what you mean by this comment? Kath also concludes that Greenie's death points at Nerwen but doesn't really explain why and says that she became suddenly defensive on Day2.

Day 3 - Kath believes my reveal and votes for Nerwen.

Thoughts: hmmm, interesting. Nerwen says practically nothing about Kath. Kath throws very vague suspicion at Nerwen's direction, but definitely doesn't act on it. Looks fishy to me all in all - but no one says this can't be coincidence.

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next up: a look on Lottie's death

[Thinlómien]

Last Night, the wolves must have been pretty desperate to get the seer (a big at you) because without an effective seer reveal, they would have been close to a victory. Therefore, I'm going to assume Lottie was killed because they thoughts she was the seer.

Lottie's possible Night 1 dreams based on Day1 posts
Me = innocent -> works because I was in her innocent category on Day2 and she made a point of saying that I have looked innocent since Day1
Greenie = innocent -> works because she died before Lottie could say more about her
Nog = innocent (this is a stretch though) -> disproved by her vote on Day2
Legate = guilty -> can't be because he was an ordo

Lottie's possible Night 2 dreams based on Day2 posts
Kath = guilty
Cop = guilty
Kitanna = innocent
All of these work in relation to Lottie's list on Day2. She defends Kitanna in a way that the wolves could have seen as the seer protecting a known innocent, but I think it's more likely that their interest was piqued by what she said about Kath or Cop (why else would Lottie stand out to the wolves?). In this regard, Kath looks a little worse than Cop because:

Originally Posted by Lottie in her first post on Day2 where she actually discusses living people; bolding mine

So this caught my eye as being...off. I don't know Kath's playing style very well, but this post of hers came off as being at once flippant - "they are both clearly self preservation votes", "I rather feel lynching sally or Kitanna would give more information" - and, at the same time, almost grasping at suspicions. For one thing, her suspicions about Kit and Sally are flimsy at best, but she phrases them as though they're simple and clean-cut and obvious. She mentions Nog, Nerwen, and Lommy, but doesn't actually say anything about them - basically a "I thought they might be suspicious but I don't know" kind of statement that doesn't do anyone much good. I'm not at all happy with this vote, and Kath has definitely jumped to the top of my list.

So, I think the wolves could have seen Lottie as a potential seer who dreamed of innocent!me (or innocent!Greenie) on Night 1 and guilty!Kath (or guilty!Cop - or even innocent!Kit) on Night2.

The fact that Nerwen's lottielysis toDay interprets her posts so that she dreamed of innocent Kitanna makes me more certain that either Kath or Cop has to be guilty, or possibly even both - why else would Nerwolf pass such an obvious opportunity to cast suspicion on them?

[Thinlómien]

In conclusion:

Kath and Cop look pretty bad at the moment.

Boro could just as well be guilty as innocent.

Sally actually probably looks the best out of the four at the moment. If she is innocent, I want to offer my most cordial thanks for unwittingly acting as my shield.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

If she is innocent, I want to offer my most cordial thanks for unwittingly acting as my shield.

You're welcome, peaches. <3

I'm back (more or less) and have caught up (more or less).

I see no reason to doubt Lommy's reveal at this point; despite her odd suspicion of me Day 1, I found her pretty innocent throughout. I suspected up front that Kit's trust in me was a result of either her really playing me or some sort of good role, so to find she's the maniac is not at all a shock. Nerwen is, of course, always evil.

++Nerwen

Now that the vote is out of the way, I'll take a look at the unknowns in the group. Hopefully I'll be back in a short while with some equally short thoughts.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I suspected up front that Kit's trust in me was a result of either her really playing me or some sort of good role, so to find she's the maniac is not at all a shock. Nerwen is, of course, always evil.

I think this is the first time in our long WW history I have not assumed you're evil and worked to get you lynched. Or been a wolf myself and worked to get you lynched. And if you do happen to be evil this game I know I need to continue to work at getting you lynched. <3

++Nerwen

It is a beautiful day and I am going to enjoy a walk on my lunch break and I really don't have anything to say that I haven't said already. I may pop in again before Day ends, but it's unlikely since I am not going home after work until after DL.

[Thinlómien]

I need to go to sleep now, so

++Nerwen

If she decides to counter reveal and anybody believes her even a tiny bit, do a little maths and you'll see that if I was a wolf, it would have made zero sense for me to fake reveal toDay (the decisive Day is only toMorrow and I would be certain to get lynched then) - unless I was in cahoots with Nerwen herself (which still supports lynching her toDay) and that would've been quite an unnecessary plot as if the village would mislynch toDay there would be a huge chance of wolf victory toMorrow (only one innocent votes wrong and that's it) whereas now we would be just prolonging the game, perhaps fatally for the baddies, as it would be very suspicious if I didn't die soon.

(Now I'm lost in what if scenarios. Imagine if Nerwen, Kitanna and I were the wolves and we had orchestrated all of this. It would have been so epic I almost wish that was the case. )

Okay, going now. May we all have sweet dreams.


PS. If there's an unforeseen misfortune and I die toNight, please please look carefully at Nerwen's interactions with people and Lottie's death, my posts toDay are a good place to start.

[Nerwen]

Aw Lommy, you double-crossing penguin, why are you doing this to me? I thought we agreed last Night I was going to impersonate the Seer and you were going to be lynched! Meanie!