The Tol-in-Gaurhoth Grimoire

[Kuruharan]

Predators - 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 18, 21, 27, 28, 30, 33, 34, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 46, 48, 49, 50, 52, 53, 55, 56, 59, 61, 62, 63, 65, 66, 67, 69 (split with lovers), 70, 71, 73, 74, 75, 82, 83, 85, 86, 88, 91, 92, 96, 97, 104, 105 (55 total)

Prey - 4, 6, 8, 12, 15, 17, 19, 20, 22, 23, 24, 26, 29, 31, 32, 35, 38, 39, 45, 47, 51, 58, 60, 64, 68, 76, 77, 79, 80, 81, 84, 87, 89, 90, 93, 94, 95, 98, 99, 100, 101, 103, 106 (split with Lovers) (43 total)

Loners - 37, 54 (2 total)

Lovers – 25, 69 (split with predators), 106 (split with prey) (3 total)

Tie - 16, 57 (2 total)

People who analyze this game usually find that the prey tend to win most of the time. For some reason we are the complete reverse of this and have continued to be after nine years of playing.

Also, it looked like game 102 completely fizzled...or am I just blind and didn't see it?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Also, it looked like game 102 completely fizzled...or am I just blind and didn't see it?

You're not wrong. It never got off the ground, so we eventually just kept moving.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

People who analyze this game usually find that the prey tend to win most of the time. For some reason we are the complete reverse of this and have continued to be after nine years of playing.

That's because we have awesome players here. Or maybe we just enjoy being evil.

I'm glad you bumped this thread because it looks like I've only posted once - in 2008, after just eight games. I may have to go through my games again once I have a better machine than my phone at hand.

[Inziladun]

My stats are in serious need of updating, when I find the time for it.

[Coppermirror]

Oh, stats? This looks like fun. I'll list mine too.

Seven games. An ordo four times, a wolf twice, and a hunter once. I have never been killed any earlier than Night 4 in any game. I've been on the losing side twice, and the winning side five times, but have only survived the game twice - once as a wolf, and once as an ordo.

1. XCVII: Werewolves in the Westfold.
Ordo. Killed by a wolf on Night 5. Wolf victory.

2. XCVIII: Death at the Foot of Taniquetil
Wolf. Lynched on Day 4. Village victory.

3. C - The Father Christmas Murders
Ordo. Survived! Village victory.

4. CI - Mutton yesterDay, mutton toDay and mutton toMorrow
Ordo (troll). Killed by a wizard on Night 7. Village victory.

5. CIII: Big Magic in Middle Earth Arcane Encampment
Hunter (Pact Mage). Killed on Night 4, and took down a wolf. Village victory.

6. CV: They Should Make a Movie About This!
Wolf (moviephile). Survived! Wolf victory.

7. CVI: Tol-in-Westeros
Ordo. Killed by a bear on Night 4. Village (and Lovers) victory.

[Aganzir]

So I actually just went through all my games with my phone (go to bed Agan) to reach the following statistics: of all the 26-ish games I've played, I've been a villain in over a third.

Also, it's two years since I last played. I'll have to do something about this.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

... only survived the game twice - once as a wolf, and once as an ordo.

Speaking of which, ditto! I also only survived 2 games - Lottie's Quest For More Money (Ordo) and Lottie's Christmas Murders (Seer). Who knows, maybe I was bribing Lottie all that time...

(I'm still incredibly surprised I still survived that final Night as the Seer, though...)

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Also, it's two years since I last played. I'll have to do something about this.

Yeeeeeeeesssss......

[Kuruharan]

For those who have played both on the internet and in person, do you have a preference in mode?

I much prefer playing Werewolf on the internet because you can put so much more thought into it and to me it feels more balanced. When I've played in person the game tends to degenerate into chaos that almost inevitably ends with a victorious village. It gets very frustrating if you are a wolf.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Speaking of which, ditto! I also only survived 2 games - Lottie's Quest For More Money (Ordo) and Lottie's Christmas Murders (Seer). Who knows, maybe I was bribing Lottie all that time...

Shhhh, we don't talk about that.

[McCaber]

XLII: The Meaning of Life Forever
Cobbler, won. Got lynched on the last day. Voted for myself to seal it. Not bad for my first game on the site.

XLIII: Mist on the Barrow-Downs
Wolf, won. Survived until the end backing up Legate.

XLIV: In the House of Tom Bombadil
Villager, lost. Got lynched on day 2.

XLV: The Fellowship of Saruman
Villager, won. Survived to the end.

XLVII: Dueling Wizards II
Innocent, withdrew because of time constraints. Village won.

L: Battle of the Fandoms
Villager, lost. Lynched Day 5 as I proceeded to make myself look much more terrible than I should have. Macalaure played a hell of a solo game to pull of the wolf win.

LII: Star-Crossed II: Together in Eternity
One of the Lovers with Greenie. Lost when I got lynched. This game was nuts with the roles. Two pairs of lovers who are each out to kill, and who die if their pair dies? That's fairly standard. A seer-cobbler who dies if she dreams of her lover, the ranger-cobbler? A seer-ranger, and an ordinary ranger on top of it? That's absolutely crazy.

LIII: The Republic
Villager, lost. Got killed by the wolves Night 3.

LXI: Grimm Tales
Robber Bridegroom (read cobbler), won. Survived to the end and didn't even need to vote myself on the last day. My secondary goal was to kidnap three princesses. I got Greenie myself, and the other two were taken care for me. Victory on all fronts. Probably the most fun game I've played.

LXII: Dead Men Do Tell Tales
Innocent, lost. Got lynched Day 1. Some games are boring like that, and it's ok.

LXIII: The Cottage of Lost Play
Seer, first and only time. Fenris'd Fea, but was forced into revealing on Day 1 and was killed on Night 3. Lost the game on a coin flip, so in my head I call this one a draw.

LXVI: The Night Guard
Ranger, lost. I had no idea who to protect and spent the game blundering around, just to get played in the literal last minute to organize a bandwagon against a villager instead of a wolf.

LXIX: Meeting at the House of Usher
Wolf, won. Got lynched to provide cover for the rest of the pack.

XC: Lord of the Rings 2: The Quest for More Money
Villager, won. Got lynched Day 2.

LXXXVII: The Valley Forge
Villager, won. Survived to the end.

XCV: Meeting at the Town Cobbler
Villager, won. Killed by the wolves on Night one, which is what I want to happen as a villie.

C: The Father Christmas Murders
Lost as the Cobbler for the first time. I did get to say "I'm the Cobbler, wolves please don't kill me" on Day 1 and didn't get made, so I've got that going for me.

CI: Mutton yesterDay, mutton toDay, and mutton toMorrow.
Wolf, lost after a truly inspired Lottie hunter kill.

CIII: Big Magic in Middle-Earth.
Innocent Lover, won, but didn't find my counterpart Legate in time to fill the actual role.

- - - - - - -

In summation:
Villager: 5-4
Wolf: 3-1
Cobbler: 2-1
Seer: 0-0-1
Ranger: 0-1

Total: 10-7-1
Good: 5-5-1
Evil: 5-2

Basically, I'm only good at this game when I'm bad. When it comes to actually having to knuckle down and deduce a wolf, I'm pretty lost. But if you want a Cobbler, I'm your man.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

That's because we have awesome players here. Or maybe we just enjoy being evil.

That probably has something to do with it. Downers also seem to vary the games quite frequently which lends unfamiliarity to the proceedings which I think tends to favor the predators. Also, I think since we are not playing in person here the predators do not have physical tells to worry about.

I'm glad you bumped this thread because it looks like I've only posted once - in 2008, after just eight games. I may have to go through my games again once I have a better machine than my phone at hand.

All in a day's work for the Lord High Scorekeeper.

[Galadriel55]

Aha! Such a good thing that I updated my little WW Excel chart with all my notes and stats, and now this thread gets bumped...

Total games: 12
% games won: 42%
% games won as goodie: 50%
% games won as baddie: 0%
% of games in which I consider my personal performance successful: 58%

By role:
Ordo: 4 games (2 wins, 2 successful - note: not the same 2 games)
Seer: 3 games (1 win, 3 successful - the 2 losses were very close, and I was still quite satisfied with my performance)
Ranger: 2 games (2 wins, 1 successful)
Hunter: 1 game (0 wins, 0 successful. It was the time I committed suicide at 1am local time on Day2 very noisily, as Boro and Nerwen may remember)
Wolf: 2 games (0 wins, 1 successful - these were my 1st and 3rd games, no wonder...)

Interesting notes:

I was an ordo most often, as is expected. However, I was an ordo only 33% of my games, which is a very low statistic for an average village.

I was the Seer in 25% of my games (the chance of being the Seer in one game is 8%, and that with a pretty small village). This is ridiculous. This is probably where all my ordo percentages are being eaten up. Evidently, I am best at this role as it is the only one with 100% satisfaction.

I have been the Ranger and Wolf the same amount of times (17%), which is odd considering that there are usually three wolves and no more than one Ranger. In fact, I haven't been evil since my third game (and yet you've lynched me 4 times since then - that's 44%! But one of those lynches was a lost race between the already known wolves and innocents, so I don't suppose it counts. )

The Hunter is the lowest in all statistics. I've been one the least times (aside from cobbler and lover, which I've never been), had the least wins (zero, tied with wolf) and no satisfaction .


Now, when I play a score or so more games, I wonder if the stats will level out...