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Galadriel55 · 10-27-2014, 05:40 AM

I had a dream tonight, evidently in light of the recent threads up in the Books forum, that Theodred returned to life (either actually, or as a ghost, I wasn't sure). He appeared before Eomer, and Eomer said something very Shakespearian-sounding, like "your face doth look familiar to me". Theodred was disappointed at Eomer's face recognition skills. He then told Eomer that the country has the potential to prosper, and yet it just barely chugs on. He showed Eomer some mine, I think, and how much whatever they were mining for there was compared to how much they actually got out of it. Then, leaving Eomer to work with the mining industry, he got himself a chariot drawn by two horses and rose to a different place, probably the border. There were two guards. He told them he's going to lift this country up, and gave them each a few orders. Then he said he was going to the next thing he wants to improve in Rohan, and left them the chariot ("and those no-good horses!") because they were too slow. But the guards figured that this chariot was a very recent design, made after Theodred's death, so he just probably didn't know how to attach the harnesses properly. When they examined it, sure, as soon as they got a piece to click in place the horses whisked away, chariot and all.

And in the end it came down to Eomer and Theodred debating the nature of the non-covalent attraction between chocolate pudding and a metal spoon.

Galadriel55 · 07-17-2017, 02:46 PM

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And in the end it came down to Eomer and Theodred debating the nature of the non-covalent attraction between chocolate pudding and a metal spoon.

What the hell was going on in my subconscious that night???

Anyways, have a new dream to report. Eomer (again) was walking with Aragorn. Aragorn was explaining how Rohan got corrupted. Eomer wanted to know the name of the evildoer who did this to his country, but Aragorn would not say. His elusive answers kept riling Eomer up. Finally, Aragorn dramatically revealed the name Saruman. "Saruman!" exclaimed Eomer, "But I have met him before! That was the name of an old servant of a lord who was passing by. He must have posed that way to trick us! He is not a servant at all then!"

Judging by this entry and the last one, my subconscience thinks Eomer is not a very bright lad.

Thinlómien · 07-19-2017, 05:46 AM

Thanks for resurrecting this thread, Gal. It's wild.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-16-2021, 02:15 AM

Time to resurrect this thread once again!

I had a dream about the upcoming War of the Rohirrim film. It was aired on TV and myself, Lommy, and several other 'Downers were watching it (I at least recall Boro and Oddwen).

First thing, it actually was not anime, it was live-action, even though somewhat strange. Somebody explained that the anime was scheduled to come in a year, but this was a sort of first-stage version of it, that they first did it with live actors and then they will just "draw over" them and make the anime. When asked why would the film company do that, the conclusion was that likely they wanted to release as much material as possible while they had the rights to Tolkien's works.

The plot was rather unexpected. It actually took place in the aftermath of Helm Hammerhand's death. The main protagonist was some Hobbit (presumably an adventurous Took) who had travelled to Rohan and stumbled upon Helm Hammerhand's daughter when she was bathing in a small pond in the middle of a forest (Fangorn?).

Now, the problem was that there apparently existed a law in Rohan that if somebody sees the princess naked, he should be sentenced to death. That was what the princess demanded once she realised that the Hobbit had seen her.

Dream logic insert: the Hobbit in question was at the same time sort of Frodo/Merry, and he was played by Daniel Radcliffe. The princess was sort of Éowyn and was played by Miranda Otto, but clearly a younger version of herself (she looked like she was about 16).

This is to also explain what happened next: Éomer appeared and tried to both placate his sister and also to explain to the Hobbit that this was just how their law worked and told him to simply cooperate. He was very much trying to mediate, but maintained that the law had to be respected. He showed the Hobbit some old parchment where the law was recorded.

The Hobbit read, in what I understood was to be some old Anglo-Saxon language, something that sounded like: "...arfhaed matté wytha."

"Does it mean you are going to boil me alive in hot tea-water?" the Hobbit asked, clearly not having understood a single word.
"Why would you think that?" Éomer asked, confused.
"Well, here it says 'maté'."

Then Éomer and Théoden (who had also appeared from somewhere) proceeded to explain that the only way for the Hobbit to save his life was to fulfil three tasks prescribed by the law. If he manages to do them faster than the Princess, he shall be exonerated.

I don't remember all of the tasks. The second one was a ploughing contest. There was a small plot of land (maybe 10x10 m), the Hobbit and the Princess were each given a plough and using them, they were supposed to unearth some root vegetables that grew there. Frodo/Daniel Radcliffe (I was very conscious of him looking like that at that point) did not seem to be very lucky, the Princess had found maybe four vegetables already while he found none. I thought that this was stupid because clearly the main hero had to survive, so they could not make him lose, but I saw no way he could win. Then he suddenly unearthed a large cluster of the root vegetables at once.

Then the dream shifted for the last time. We were watching it from the outside on some small TV, and the film turned into a trailer of sorts. There was Saruman who looked exactly like Gandalf, and we concluded that this was because in times of old, when he was still 'good', he did look like Gandalf, or at least close enough that people mixed them up.

Then there were several shots of Hobbits as adventurers. Very non-canon. One shot included a Hobbit with tiny fairy-wings, wielding two daggers, twirling them epically in mid-flight and then stabbing them into the back of some tiny fairy dragon that flew ahead of him. We understood that the wings was one of the ways the Hobbit was going to "level up", a special power he was going to acquire.

When I asked about the fairy dragons and the overall fairy-theme, it was explained to me that the owners of the license also owned the license to other fantasy and sci-fi franchises, and that they were going to introduce subtle crossover elements as they were going to place Middle-Earth into the same multiverse as several other fantasy series, but also Transformers, Star Trek and Magic: The Gathering. One of the last things I recall from the trailer was a dramatic view of a massive Transformer towering against the dark sky filled with lightnings, wielding Captain America's shield, and facing it, bravely, a bunch of tiny Hobbits alongside Chandra Nalaar.

The overall feeling I got from the dream was quite unsettling.

Galadriel55 · 06-16-2021, 12:11 PM

Legate, I get the sense that your dream self just really wants to see Daniel Radcliffe cosplay a hobbit.

Pitchwife · 06-16-2021, 03:01 PM

^This is so many kinds of hilarious, Legate! Also kind of creepy in parts.

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