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Old 06-04-2015, 01:30 PM   #1
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I thought the itch thing might inidicate something but what I am not sure
Yes. And what was this "door is shut" business? Reminds me of the Paths of the Dead. Hmmm.
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Old 06-04-2015, 01:36 PM   #2
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Yes. And what was this "door is shut" business? Reminds me of the Paths of the Dead. Hmmm.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:06 PM   #3
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In the narration.
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One individual had even developed a persistent itch due to the damp from the doors being permanently shut.
I thought of this. "The way is shut.
It was made by those who are Dead.
And the Dead keep it.
The way is shut."

Probably just me being fanciful.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:11 PM   #4
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Boro, I was explaining why I thought it would have looked wolf-on-wolfy in a normal game. Like I just told Mac, my conclusion was that it wasn't, and that Lommy was suspicious.

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One individual had even developed a persistent itch due to the damp from the doors being permanently shut.
Hmmm.

Now I wonder if this relates to the secret role. Maybe some kind of cursed/someone who turns gifted eventually?
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:17 PM   #5
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Now I wonder if this relates to the secret role.
Yes, this was precisely what I was wondering.

Also I am still wondering why the Nog bandwaggon only started after he (Nogs) named Agan and Phantom.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:33 PM   #6
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Am I right in that the only votes that have been cast this far are these two:

Lottie – morm
Nerwen – Mac

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I don't want to vote for either of these two, I think morm is innocent and I don't have a clear enough opinion on Mac either way. My top picks would be Agan and Sally, but I'd prefer to hear more from Sally first before making a decision since right now she's in the "just plain confusing" category rather than the "downright evil" one.
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Old 06-04-2015, 02:54 PM   #7
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Looks like it's bedtime for me.

++ Aganzir

In brief - her reaction to Lommy's point against her is still the most suspicious thing I've seen this far. Sally seemed in a way even more off than Agan, but I want her to explain herself before deciding what to think.

That's all from me toDay, I'm sure there was something else I meant to say but if there was I've forgotten it. Leaky brain is leaky. Anyway, choose wisely, kids. Good night.
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Am I right in that the only votes that have been cast this far are these two:
Lottie – mormv
Nerwen – Mac

?

I don't want to vote for either of these two, I think morm is innocent and I don't have a clear enough opinion on Mac either way. My top picks would be Agan and Sally, but I'd prefer to hear more from Sally first before making a decision since right now she's in the "just plain confusing" category rather than the "downright evil" one.
Checking in again (still on this cursed phone). I agree with Greenie tha neither Morm nor Mac really strikes me (yet? I don't have much of a read on Mac--which is suspicious, I suppose, but knd of how I feel about everyone here. Morm feels fouler, but that could be a Gifted vibe). Rather thanvote for either of them just yet, I'd still like to see more options, especially off the Nogwaggon. The middle voters strike me as having been in the best voting slots to indicate wolves: trying to hide their votes and--maybe--cover a packmate in danger. And although he's obviously off the lynchable list today, I don't leave Phantom off the list if possible wolves. It'd be quite typical of him to disguise any lycanthropy by giving the village the soundest advice he could think of..besides him, Lottie, Eomer, a d Shasta have all been under the radar. Out of that bandwaggon midsection, we could easily have a lurkerwolf.
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Old 06-04-2015, 05:46 PM   #9
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tally

Lottie - morm
Nerwen - Mac
Greenie - Agan
Lalaith - Agan (2)
Lommy - Agan (3)
Legate - Greenie
McCab - Agan (4)
morm - Mac (2)

I'll be around for a little while longer because I need to pack for my weekend outing, but unless something drastic happens, I'll vote for Greenie. I'll be equally happy to vote for Mac to save my skin though because this bandwagon is ridiculous.
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Old 06-04-2015, 06:24 PM   #10
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:39 PM   #11
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Well, I'm back, she said.

I'd rather the Dead checked Nog first. I'm quite positive phantom was innocent (he wouldn't have acted the way he did, and somehow I doubt he'd have killed Rune under the circumstances), and I agree with Boro that checking the lynches is more relevant than checking the night kills.

Then again, the wolves will continue to use their influence to direct attention away from their fellows, dead even more than alive. So when a dead person is revealed to be a predator, I vote for taking a very close look at the people who tried to convince the Dead to scry somebody else instead.

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I'm wondering about that myself- I'm reading through yesterDay and there are interactions that *look* like "normal" wolf-on-wolfing- morm's with Mac
What was that? Mac is a player who likes his wolf-on-wolfing a lot, but I didn't think his interaction with morm was particularly fishy (pretty much all he said was that he can't leave morm under the radar), and I'm not sure morm would have gone so far as to vote for him (even if it was early in the day) if they were fellows.

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PS. For anyone who wants to have a laugh on the expense of dead people (very crass I know ;-)):
You know I kept skimming the thread in my meeting even after I got too busy to post, and I had to make a real effort to keep from laughing when I saw that quote.

Gah I really need to go to sleep soon and I just don't have the time I need today.

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I didn't consider it, I dismissed it. :P
Well Mac, I've also dismissed the chance of your being one, as the seer wouldn't dream of talking about me the way you do.

Boro's reasoning about phantom and Rune's roles in #286 feels good to me.

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I still think Agan is most likely a wolf, but I'll grant that there's a possibility that she's innocent. But why then was she so upset about Lommy's suspicion? It just makes more sense for a wolf who messed up.
Because, sleep-deprived as I was in the wee hours after a very long day, I thought her main reason to suspect me was not the angle of my joke but the fact that I chose to make it in the first place (this theory was supported in my mind by her strong reaction to it earlier). I felt she was accusing me of
  1. being so dumb and/or jumpy I didn't recognise a joke, and
  2. making a really lousy slip which - IMO - she ought to have known I wouldn't do.
Which I felt insulted my intelligence, especially as I don't slip when I'm a wolf (as you'll eventually find out ) - and even if I did, I'd never trip on something so elementary. I felt Lommy was calling me stupid and being very smug and gleeful about it, and if y'all want to know, I was actually snarling at the screen.

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In the narration.

I thought of this. "The way is shut.
It was made by those who are Dead.
And the Dead keep it.
The way is shut."

Probably just me being fanciful.
Perhaps the special role can resurrect people!

Okay I'm going to put together some sort of a list.
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Then again, the wolves will continue to use their influence to direct attention away from their fellows, dead even more than alive. So when a dead person is revealed to be a predator, I vote for taking a very close look at the people who tried to convince the Dead to scry somebody else instead.
Sure, that's reasonable opinion.

And also interesting find, Lalaith, about the possible hint - I think also it might be about the unknown role (although I think we are left to speculate for now, hopefully perhaps more will follow?). Anyway, shows how for instance, I assume more people, like me, did not bother to read the narration very deeply...

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Old 06-04-2015, 03:49 PM   #13
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Well Mac, I've also dismissed the chance of your being one, as the seer wouldn't dream of talking about me the way you do.
If I was the seer, I wouldn't be almost sure that you're a wolf.

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making a really lousy slip which - IMO - she ought to have known I wouldn't do.
Hey, it happens to the very best of them.

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*cough*




About the secret role. My first thought was that the itching may refer to a cursed villager. But now that people mention the Paths of the Dead, maybe it is another person who can go to the dead thread (under certain circumstances?) and maybe bring someone back with him?
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Old 06-04-2015, 04:27 PM   #14
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It may be nothing of course but in such a sparse narration you grasp at anything... maybe the knownunknown isn't waterproof.
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