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the phantom · 06-06-2015, 01:32 PM

Can't wait to comb through Lottie's post later. Doubtless there will be truth mixed with fiction, as she's probably been plotting this ever since she was outed...

I'm glad she didn't go quietly. Whether her tactic works or not, she's certainly made things more fun.

(edit: & Vidal is a moron, he's begged to get his second yellow a couple times now)

Nogrod · 06-06-2015, 01:36 PM

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(edit: & Vidal is a moron, he's begged to get his second yellow a couple times now)

Thanks for reminding me. I had totally forgotten the game is already on!

*goes to see it*

Aganzir · 06-06-2015, 01:46 PM

Can we have a pack containing Lottie and Eomer?

I wouldn't automatically dismiss the possibility that Nerwen is a lover who made a lucky guess, but Lottie's role is so clear that I think checking Mac tonight will be a good idea nonetheless.

the phantom · 06-06-2015, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Agan

Can we have a pack containing Lottie and Eomer?

Of course I could be wrong (we don't know that much at this point), but I've had those two together in all my theoretical packs.

Firefoot could be a Wolf. Or Lottie could be painting her as a Wolf because she wants her pack to kill her but does not want the Ranger to protect her (i.e. she actually suspects her of being the Seer & the Legate-Seer thing is a clever ruse).

Aganzir · 06-06-2015, 01:56 PM

Well Legate, she'll find out you were not the seer as soon as we empower Nilp or Shasta.

Also, regarding my idea for the Dead Thread Summary, I think it can wait until end of NIGHT. After all, we don't want to make a wolf's stay here any easier.

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

The only nagging question is: really. Why would she tell the villagers the extra info: that is, the info of whom did her pack kill and whom did the other pack kill? Why give the village extra weapons? What do you think?

Mac is dead and whether he's actually a wolf or not, she thinks so and figured Firefoot's death would put her pack in the lead. It's worth sharing their kill, I feel, especially if they don't implicate anyone in particular.

Although it makes me wonder - presumably Lottie's pack killed Rune and Legate, thinking the latter was the seer. Greenie was the only person whom Legate's death implicated. Meanwhile Mac and Firefoot's supposed pack killed phantom and Rikae, and while the former makes sense, Rikae died with Lottie as her apparent top suspect (although maybe Firefoot got scared of her, as would just be expected).

Okay I am getting yelled at for werewolfing so exit Agan.

A Little Green · 06-06-2015, 01:50 PM

My, my. This is getting interesting. Certainly, Lottie's confession makes it more likely that a) Nerwen is telling the truth and b) Mac is thus a wolf too.

A Little Green · 06-06-2015, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Agan

Can we have a pack containing Lottie and Eomer?

Well, Eomer was certainly trying to steer the lynch away from her.

Nogrod · 06-06-2015, 01:57 PM

One thing I might say (having just spent a little thought of Lottie's rant while the half-time of the match).

We might believe that Lottie actually thought that Firefoot is a wolf for there certainly is rivalry between the packs and they do not want to go even one down to the other pack. So it would be reasonable to give the village the hint if you had a clue in a situation you knew you were a goner.

But was she correct in thinking Firefoot a wolf (or that Mac is for that matter)?

Or is there a scheme she could be pulling off?

EDIT: Aha... it seems this was already under discussion...

A Little Green · 06-06-2015, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

But was she correct in thinking Firefoot a wolf (or that Mac is for that matter)?

Well, Nerwen said Mac is a wolf too, so there's that. Firefoot is a whole different matter. Could be a wolf, certainly, but we know Lottie is wrong about Legate too, so I wouldn't bet on it.

Macalaure · 06-06-2015, 02:12 PM

Not much time right now.

I have to say, as unhappy as I am with Nerwen's nonsense, it did bring us a wolf. Lottie was under suspicion, but it still could have taken a while to bring her down.

I still hope that she's Sally's bluffing lover, and that she will join us soon. A not unlikely ranger protection could delay that, which is even better: It slows down the killing (which is something we could really use), and it means we'll be able to give her one more Night's worth of info.

Rikae · 06-06-2015, 02:16 PM

Hm.

I really got the impression that Mac was 100% certain I was lying about being the seer. If there had been doubt in his mind, I think he would have reacted differently.

That could, of course, have been because he was innocent, but it could also be that someone I named as innocent (Firefoot, Lommy, Boro, tp) was in his pack.

Rikae · 06-06-2015, 02:26 PM

Ok, Shasta has voted for Lottie now. I say we empower Shasta (although it will be best to wait in case of any last-minute developments).

Firefoot's post isn't going anywhere. Even if it isn't discussed again, it will be a small matter for the living to remember it toMorrow, when they're discussing our contribution.

Nogrod · 06-06-2015, 02:26 PM

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Well, Nerwen said Mac is a wolf too, so there's that.

I wouldn't say it's there (Lottie seemed to confess but it doesnt make Nerwen's revealment 100% fool-proof) - even if I'm leaning to trust it more than not at the moment.

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That could, of course, have been because he was innocent, but it could also be that someone I named as innocent (Firefoot, Lommy, Boro, tp) was in his pack.

I think all of the four qualify as possible wolves, even several of them, well all of them could be...

Rikae · 06-06-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

I wouldn't say it's there (Lottie seemed to confess but it doesnt make Nerwen's revealment 100% fool-proof) - even if I'm leaning to trust it more than not at the moment.

I think all of the four qualify as possible wolves, even several of them, well all of them could be...

Not Mac's packmates they couldn't.

I was thinking especially of Firefoot.

Nogrod · 06-06-2015, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Not Mac's packmates they couldn't.

Yeah, but I thought of them generally being wolves to start with...

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I was thinking especially of Firefoot.

And now I think we have some pieces falling nicely together...

Nogrod · 06-06-2015, 02:42 PM

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I'd also like to point out that I have been pretty consistent in my suspicion of Mac, and voted for him yesterday bringing him to three votes when Agan had only four.

Haha. Firefoot shooting herself to the foot?

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None of this addresses the most important of my points: how did you know, without once suggesting something that was not correct, how the Night kills were distributed between the packs? You hit the nail on the head with your first swing, which would have been almost impossible if you only had access to the information the rest of the village does. You only could have know that that was how the kills fell out if you were, in fact, a member of one of the packs.

And vengeful and angry Lottie shooting straight to the torso then?

It would be nice we'd used a system confirmed by a wolf to tell the people what we know...

06-06-2015, 01:32 PM	#1
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Can't wait to comb through Lottie's post later. Doubtless there will be truth mixed with fiction, as she's probably been plotting this ever since she was outed... I'm glad she didn't go quietly. Whether her tactic works or not, she's certainly made things more fun. (edit: & Vidal is a moron, he's begged to get his second yellow a couple times now) __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-06-2015, 01:46 PM	#3
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Can we have a pack containing Lottie and Eomer? I wouldn't automatically dismiss the possibility that Nerwen is a lover who made a lucky guess, but Lottie's role is so clear that I think checking Mac tonight will be a good idea nonetheless. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

06-06-2015, 01:50 PM	#6
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	My, my. This is getting interesting. Certainly, Lottie's confession makes it more likely that a) Nerwen is telling the truth and b) Mac is thus a wolf too. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

06-06-2015, 01:57 PM	#8
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	One thing I might say (having just spent a little thought of Lottie's rant while the half-time of the match). We might believe that Lottie actually thought that Firefoot is a wolf for there certainly is rivalry between the packs and they do not want to go even one down to the other pack. So it would be reasonable to give the village the hint if you had a clue in a situation you knew you were a goner. But was she correct in thinking Firefoot a wolf (or that Mac is for that matter)? Or is there a scheme she could be pulling off? EDIT: Aha... it seems this was already under discussion... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-06-2015, 02:12 PM	#10
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Not much time right now. I have to say, as unhappy as I am with Nerwen's nonsense, it did bring us a wolf. Lottie was under suspicion, but it still could have taken a while to bring her down. I still hope that she's Sally's bluffing lover, and that she will join us soon. A not unlikely ranger protection could delay that, which is even better: It slows down the killing (which is something we could really use), and it means we'll be able to give her one more Night's worth of info.

06-06-2015, 02:16 PM	#11
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Hm. I really got the impression that Mac was 100% certain I was lying about being the seer. If there had been doubt in his mind, I think he would have reacted differently. That could, of course, have been because he was innocent, but it could also be that someone I named as innocent (Firefoot, Lommy, Boro, tp) was in his pack.

06-06-2015, 02:26 PM	#12
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Ok, Shasta has voted for Lottie now. I say we empower Shasta (although it will be best to wait in case of any last-minute developments). Firefoot's post isn't going anywhere. Even if it isn't discussed again, it will be a small matter for the living to remember it toMorrow, when they're discussing our contribution.