Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Aganzir]

Me too. 15 minutes and it's Exeunt Europa.

[Aganzir]

Lalaith can have 2 hours 15 minutes, being in a lagging timezone.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Do you think Boro could be the seer and Nerwen the special role, and by whatever power invested in her, they've done a clever role swap? That would explain why she's not clear about the dreams and doesn't mind not being protected while Boro made a fake-looking reveal that strongly discouraged the wolves to try and attack him.

I thought that was possible - at first because he might have been hinting to her, but she's given too much info for it to be hints alone (as far as I can see). But maybe part of the special role, yeah.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Do you think Boro could be the seer and Nerwen the special role, and by whatever power invested in her, they've done a clever role swap? That would explain why she's not clear about the dreams and doesn't mind not being protected while Boro made a fake-looking reveal that strongly discouraged the wolves to try and attack him.

Are you sure you oughtn't be sleeping? Sounds like very overcombining brain to me

Seriously speaking though, it is possible... actually anyway, I have been thinking about there being some role-swapping involved with the special roles. Also, when was it that Boro said he killed and didn't kill or what? Is there a chance they swapped during the Night when he didn't make the kill (that being the reason why he didn't)? Still, why wasn't there an assassin earlier? Or has our Ranger been protecting people, so we didn't know there should have been more kills? (Speaking of which, where is the Ranger?)

Too many questions anyway... But yeah. Bottom line, it is possible.

[Firefoot]

just popping in to say that I'll be around at the deadline to vote, but a vote for Nerwen is fine with me.

[Aganzir]

AND WE HAVE PASSED THE LIVING THREAD!

[the phantom]

I can't believe other-lover and Ranger haven't stepped out. There's only six people we don't know, right? That would cut it down to four.

[Nogrod]

It's been really lazy there - so maybe they just haven't been around?

Kudos for our train going past them!

[Rikae]

If we had one full wolf pack here I would kind of expect them to have given up/confessed.

[Aganzir]

Um what the hell is Form trying to say?

[A Little Green]

Haven't read everything but I think I've got the idea. So -

++ Nerwen

Sorry for being useless today, should have more time tomorrow!

[Loslote]

I have nothing useful to say, just wanted to point out that we just tied the Living thread.



EDIT: xed since Firefoot

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If we had one full wolf pack here I would kind of expect them to have given up/confessed.

Yeah me too. I'd prefer a village victory to the other pack.

[Nogrod]

I wouldn't hold it impossible they have only 1+1 left there...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, now they did it:

Originally Posted by Formendacil

If we want ten-for-ten we could subtract Boro and Sally, our two "Known Roles" (well, more so than the rest--substitute Nerwen in place of one of them, if you prefer) and leave the ten votes for the ten unknowns. We could do a strict alphabetical correspondence.:

Aganzir..........................................E omer of the Rohirrim
A Little Green................................Formendacil
Firefoot.........................................K ath
Lalaith........................................... McCaber
Legate of Amon Lanc....................Mithalwen
Macalaure.....................................morm egil
Nogrod..........................................Ne rwen
Rikae............................................. Nilpaurion Felagund
Rune Son of Bjarne.......................Shastanis Althreduin
the phantom.................................Thinlómien
If his vote is for a known wolf.......Boromir88
If her vote is for a known wolf......satansaloser2005


A similar scheme (put the Living column in reverse alphabetical order, swap out Nerwen for Boro, etc) could easily be mocked up.

Question being - do we go with it? And is it safe (i.e. what if they still revise it...)

Mith would be a good vote though, generally speaking (as in, I relatively trust her). But specifically speaking, I am not sure if I would trust her - also, didn't she vote already?

[Rikae]

Form's list doesn't make any sense. Say we empower Mith ... what does that tell them? That Legate is innocent or guilty?

And now I'm really worried he'll swap Boro and Nerwen, meaning empowering her will make them think her vote is for a known wolf.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Question being - do we go with it? And is it safe (i.e. what if they still revise it...)

Mith would be a good vote though, generally speaking (as in, I relatively trust her). But specifically speaking, I am not sure if I would trust her - also, didn't she vote already?

There's no option for whether the role was good or evil, though. All we can do is tell them who was dreamed, not what the outcome was.

EDIT: xed with Rikae, who said basically the same thing.

[Nogrod]

Yeah. That's a total no go - at least for the time being.

The other question then is, is there time.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Ah, right. Stupid me.

Anyway, since Greenie already voted... and Nerwen doesn't even figure on their list... maybe we should just go with that and be done.

[Aganzir]

Yeah, our time is kind of up anyway.

I'm thinking of voting Nerwen and being done with it. Chances are she doesn't even make it back before the deadline.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Anyway, since Greenie already voted... and Nerwen doesn't even figure on their list... maybe we should just go with that and be done.

Nope. Empowering Nerwen means we found out Nog's role.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Nope. Empowering Nerwen means we found out Nog's role.

Yeah, but not which, so it still might work. But what in the name of all...

I feel like Morm's avatar right now.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Nope. Empowering Nerwen means we found out Nog's role.

Except we couldn't convey it to the village anyway, not with Form's chart, so it doesn't actually matter.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I feel like Morm's avatar right now.

You know if I get bored tomorrow, I'm going to make a "Best of Dead Thread" post with all these quotes.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

...? what???

Form, what are you suggesting?

Say, the dead empower Kath, then Firefoot what?? Is one whose role is known by the dead? But is she innocent or guilty???

Thank you Lommy.

[the phantom]

If Green or Agan can promise to be around at the Deadline with Firefoot and I, perhaps the rest of you can just spread your votes evenly right now? (with the unknowns Nog-Rikae-Lalaith voting first of course, and I don't expect the WWs to oblige)

[Rikae]

Ah, Lommy pointed it out.

But that reminds me: Lommy must know what havoc this is causing for the dead in her time zone.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

You know if I get bored tomorrow, I'm going to make a "Best of Dead Thread" post with all these quotes.

Please do. It might brighten the environment.

Anyway. So... honestly not wanting to wait for another hour. Even if they managed to come up with something, there is no way they are going to agree on a vote. Unless now Nerwen tells them "I got the dream of another person, and it is X". And we already have one vote in the lot - for Nerwen. I think we might just as well do it.

I'm afraid the Living thread is just soaked in Wolves, though...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Nope. Empowering Nerwen means we found out Nog's role.

Even if they took it that way it wouldn't make much of a difference as there is very little they could speculate with it. And btw. if the thought was that we voted someone if an innocent, it would actually be true also.

And also. It's better they think I was checked and found innocent / guilty - whichever way they are going to interpret it, than someone more recent of whom they'd have lot more "trails" to read then possibly wrong (of whom they might make a lot problematic conclusions) or the wolves might steer those interpretations.

But I mean yes. It is late and they should understand this didn't work this time.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If Green or Agan can promise to be around at the Deadline with Firefoot and I, perhaps the rest of you can just spread your votes evenly right now? (with the unknowns Nog-Rikae-Lalaith voting first of course, and I don't expect the WWs to oblige)

Nope. Greenie went to bed already and I'm not setting my alarm at 4:45, not even for 15 minutes, not even for this game.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If Green or Agan can promise to be around at the Deadline with Firefoot and I, perhaps the rest of you can just spread your votes evenly right now? (with the unknowns Nog-Rikae-Lalaith voting first of course, and I don't expect the WWs to oblige)

Green already voted. And the DL is like 4 AM our time or something?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But I mean yes. It is late and they should understand this didn't work this time.

Let's hope so. And let's hope they don't spend half tomorrow talking about whether we did send them a message or didn't. Geez.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Ah, Lommy pointed it out.

But that reminds me: Lommy must know what havoc this is causing for the dead in her time zone.

Yeah. To be fair though, they may not be thinking about it. It doesn't occur to them how careful we must be so the wolves can't hijack it.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Green already voted. And the DL is like 4 AM our time or something?

5.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If Green or Agan can promise to be around at the Deadline with Firefoot and I, perhaps the rest of you can just spread your votes evenly right now? (with the unknowns Nog-Rikae-Lalaith voting first of course, and I don't expect the WWs to oblige)

Greenie voted already, Agan said she's going to sleep... I am, Legate is too...

[Aganzir]

How about we just leave. Go quiet. Say nothing. Dead.

If we stop talking, perhaps they'll realise it's not going to work and we're not doing it.

[the phantom]

I'll go silent. We'll see.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

How about we just leave. Go quiet. Say nothing. Dead.

If we stop talking, perhaps they'll realise it's not going to work and we're not doing it.

They won't.

And really. I'm not leaving anything to the phantom remembering how he sabotaged the one we were supposed tp make together just the two of us.

SO in a minute I'm voting unless there is a strong argument why not.

[Loslote]

Looks like they're settling in for a nice, long discussion about what the best way to make this list is.

[Rikae]

I was actually thinking the opposite, that if they saw us exploding after Form's suggestion they'd realize it was a problem.

[Nogrod]

We'd need to be silent for an hour or so that it would be even imagined as seen for a sign of something. Really.

They don't watch the numbers of our posts continually - even if the phantom posts here.