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the phantom · 06-09-2015, 09:18 PM

Well, can we assume Lottie's pack took her advice and killed Firefoot. As opposed to killing Nerwen or Sally?

If so, we just look at the player list and see who might do such a thing. Who would follow orders? Who wouldn't gun for the likely known Gifteds? Might being busy make them more likely to do such things?

Morm & Form are the knowns. Perhaps McCaber, Mith, or Kath is a Wolf. But it's easier to just look at the two we know. What do you think?

the phantom · 06-09-2015, 09:21 PM

But then of course if it was Lottie's pack that killed Firefoot, that would mean Lalaith was in her pack since she obviously didn't kill herself.

Unless Lalaith's pack tried to kill Nerwen and was blocked by Shasta. Yeah, actually, that seems pretty likely.

the phantom · 06-09-2015, 09:29 PM

I'll just hypothesize packs and kills and the rest of you can tell me why I'm wrong. Or tell me what additional Wolf would make sense with Lottie. And so on...

Lottie & Form & ???------- Rune--- Legate--- Firefoot----------- Nerwen
Mac & Morm & Lalaith---- TP------ Rikae---- Nerwen (block)--- Nerwen

Loslote · 06-09-2015, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

Lottie & Form & ???------- Rune--- Legate--- Firefoot-----------Nerwen
Mac & Morm & Lalaith---- TP------ Rikae---- Nerwen (block)---Nerwen

You're wrong.

EDIT: And I'll tell you why in seventy-five posts.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-09-2015, 09:31 PM

Wasn't Lalaith targetted by Boro, or am I remembering this correctly?

Hypothetical scenarios:

NIGHT 4:

Ranger protects Nerwen.
Grip attack Firefoot.
Fang attack Nerwen, fail.
Boro targets Lalaith, succeeds.

or

Only one Wolfgang (TM Nogrod) is left and Boro's responsible for the second kill.

NIGHT 5:

Ranger protects Sally.
One group attacks Nerwen.
Other group attacks Sally, fails.
Boro targets someone, fails.

or

Only one Wolfgang is left, and they successfully kill Nerwen.

Anyway, I hit a light patch at work and am planning catch up to my Chinese cartoon backlog, so unless you want a running commentary, I'll be mostly quiet 'till empowerment time.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-09-2015, 09:33 PM

Right, I forgot that they could've double-targetted Nerwen. In any case, Sally might be in big trouble and there's no grand return for me.

Firefoot · 06-09-2015, 09:48 PM

Just looking at Mac, morm, and Form the voting record is a little confusing. There's definitely some wolf on wolf action going on, despite the arguments early on in the game that this strategy wouldn't make sense in this game.

Firefoot · 06-09-2015, 09:49 PM

Also I'm going to bed now so the Europeans can take up Lottie's challenge in the morning...

Nerwen · 06-09-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

++Nerwen Filibuster

Perhaps if the Living see our post count going crazy and see that it's always Nerwen posting they'll think to themselves, "Ooo, perhaps she has something to say?"

I'll try.

Nerwen · 06-09-2015, 09:55 PM

So, my dreams were-

Night One: phantom and Shasta.. Ordo and Ranger.

Night Two: Aganzir and Mac. Hunter and Wolf.

Night Three: Lommy and Lottie. Ordo and Wolf.

Night Four: Firefoot and Eomer.. Ordos.

Night Five: Form and Morm. Wolves.

Nerwen · 06-09-2015, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

Just looking at Mac, morm, and Form the voting record is a little confusing. There's definitely some wolf on wolf action going on, despite the arguments early on in the game that this strategy wouldn't make sense in this game.

Yes, but as I recall some of those arguments came from known wolves.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-09-2015, 10:23 PM

No one's picked up on the DAY 4 narration anomaly, unless morm's playing dumb.

Also, McCaber:

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I think we've reached the point in the game where we can stop using their vote as a source of information and instead rely on them to use their extra information to make appropriate choices on who to lynch.

Full marks.

the phantom · 06-09-2015, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nilp

Sally might be in big trouble and there's no grand return for me.

Yep. With two nights of killing, your return was always very much in doubt considering they already have plans to kill Sally. The best chance a Lover has of returning is to get Night-killed (thus only has to survive one cycle). Your only hope is that Shasta didn't protect Sally and does tomorrow Night.

the phantom · 06-09-2015, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Firefoot

Just looking at Mac, morm, and Form the voting record is a little confusing. There's definitely some wolf on wolf action going on, despite the arguments early on in the game that this strategy wouldn't make sense in this game.

Unless it's Lottie-Morm and Mac-Form-Lalaith, because while I know Morm went at Form and Mac I don't recall off hand Mac or Form going at one another.

Firefoot · 06-09-2015, 09:33 PM

I'm guessing Form/Mac and morm/Lottie. Not sure about Lal. Form and morm do a fair amount of wishy-washy accusations against each other though so they could be teammates trying to derail suspicion. I would probably guess with Mac in that case and put Lal with Lottie in that case. As phantom put it, she seems like the order taking type.

Unfortunately, neither of those scenarios lend themselves to easily and simply pointing the village to the last wolf in a pack.

06-09-2015, 09:18 PM	#1
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Well, can we assume Lottie's pack took her advice and killed Firefoot. As opposed to killing Nerwen or Sally? If so, we just look at the player list and see who might do such a thing. Who would follow orders? Who wouldn't gun for the likely known Gifteds? Might being busy make them more likely to do such things? Morm & Form are the knowns. Perhaps McCaber, Mith, or Kath is a Wolf. But it's easier to just look at the two we know. What do you think? __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-09-2015, 09:21 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	But then of course if it was Lottie's pack that killed Firefoot, that would mean Lalaith was in her pack since she obviously didn't kill herself. Unless Lalaith's pack tried to kill Nerwen and was blocked by Shasta. Yeah, actually, that seems pretty likely. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-09-2015, 09:29 PM	#3
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I'll just hypothesize packs and kills and the rest of you can tell me why I'm wrong. Or tell me what additional Wolf would make sense with Lottie. And so on... Lottie & Form & ???------- Rune--- Legate--- Firefoot----------- Nerwen Mac & Morm & Lalaith---- TP------ Rikae---- Nerwen (block)--- Nerwen __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-09-2015, 09:31 PM	#5
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Wasn't Lalaith targetted by Boro, or am I remembering this correctly? Hypothetical scenarios: NIGHT 4: Ranger protects Nerwen. Grip attack Firefoot. Fang attack Nerwen, fail. Boro targets Lalaith, succeeds. or Only one Wolfgang (TM Nogrod) is left and Boro's responsible for the second kill. NIGHT 5: Ranger protects Sally. One group attacks Nerwen. Other group attacks Sally, fails. Boro targets someone, fails. or Only one Wolfgang is left, and they successfully kill Nerwen. Anyway, I hit a light patch at work and am planning catch up to my Chinese cartoon backlog, so unless you want a running commentary, I'll be mostly quiet 'till empowerment time. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-09-2015, 09:33 PM	#6
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	My previous crossed with phantom's #975. Right, I forgot that they could've double-targetted Nerwen. In any case, Sally might be in big trouble and there's no grand return for me. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-09-2015, 09:48 PM	#7
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Just looking at Mac, morm, and Form the voting record is a little confusing. There's definitely some wolf on wolf action going on, despite the arguments early on in the game that this strategy wouldn't make sense in this game.

06-09-2015, 09:49 PM	#8
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Also I'm going to bed now so the Europeans can take up Lottie's challenge in the morning...

06-09-2015, 09:55 PM	#10
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	So, my dreams were- Night One: phantom and Shasta.. Ordo and Ranger. Night Two: Aganzir and Mac. Hunter and Wolf. Night Three: Lommy and Lottie. Ordo and Wolf. Night Four: Firefoot and Eomer.. Ordos. Night Five: Form and Morm. Wolves. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.