Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I don't see a problem there, I think. Mith's last post seems kinda decent... I just hope we don't have any weird "Boroisheretokilleveryone" scenario, but I guess there is still time for that. I hope.

I just don't understand why at this point he can't state some clear thing... such as "I can't kill people anymore" or "I won't kill people any more" or... whatever.

[Formendacil]

A sulkish Form sits in a corner and licks his ghostly wounds. He predicted he wouldn't have QUITE enough time to commit to a proper game and is irked at having squandered a magnificent Day 1. Also, his pack is all dead and the malaise of being on the only team definitely eliminated from contention is wearing on him such that he shall now speak only in third person.

[Nogrod]

Fishy-fishy-fishy-fissshhh!

Find the Fish!

Now where can that fish be? It is a most elusive fish!

[A Little Green]

++Mith

If something comes up, there should still be enough innocents to override Agan and me. Also, Nog is apparently sleeping with the fishes!

[Aganzir]

Cheer up, Form! Here's a little something for you and morm.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Kuru

Weirdly, the first noticable thing was that the incessant scratching had finally ceased. Joyful day!

What is the meaning of this? That Boro has lost his powers - I think he boasted of getting rid of three werewolves - and there were three scratches in one narration - scratch-scratch-scratch.

What would it then mean as to him - and well everyone? But I'm afraid we can't deduce that and it would be even pretty hard to guess - so maybe we then just ignore him toDay unless there is more knowledge?

Like Legate said, McCaber might look a bit more like a generic wolf, but I'm somewhat more worried about Mith - all her super-activity staying up late and whatnot.

But our voting then?

Should we try to tell them about Rikae (will that give them any clues good enough?) or do we just try to affect the lynch (it might be a close one this time so it might have an effect)?

I'd kind of like to not empower anyone, but with five wolves sitting here idle I'm not too optimistic we could arrange it even if we wished - so basically if we want to vote someone and mean something with it, then we'd have to come up with some decent ideas fairly soon.

[Nogrod]

Okay. Two votes already for Mith.

I'm not sure I like it, but I can live with it.


EDIT: Sorry: I can be dead with it. Naturally.

[Nogrod]

Just posting Nilp's suggestion to this page as well...

Originally Posted by Nilp

If Rikae is innocent, give your vote to Shasta, Mithalwen or McCaber.

If Rikae, by some chance, is a wolf, give your vote to Sally, Nilp, or Kath.

If we are at loss as to what to do we might vote for any of the trio Shasta, Mith & McCaber.

If the wolf hasn't thought of it already, I wouldn't like to empower Shasta to draw the light on him. Of the other two, well Mith already has two...


If it is going to be a race for lynch between Mith and McCaber I'm not sure if I'm having strong feelings either way.


Anyway. Whomever unknown they lynch and s/he is not the wolf, there will most probably be two unknowns left (of which the other is a wolf) + two from the group (Shasta, Sally, Boro) - unless Shasta makes a save either on an attack to himself or to, well Sally (I doubt he will be covering Boro... ).

So it is perfectly winnable for the village - unless Boro has some such powers we can't foresee.

[Nogrod]

We seem to be thinking of the same things at the same time...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What is the meaning of this? That Boro has lost his powers - I think he boasted of getting rid of three werewolves - and there were three scratches in one narration - scratch-scratch-scratch.

I had forgotten about it. Yes, it looks a bit like that. Who knows... I just hope he isn't something Cursed that turns into a Wolf when the rest of the Wolves die or somesuch (we had similar thing in some earlier game, didn't we?). But anyway, for now... I think we should just wait for what happens in the Night. If anything.

Like Legate said, McCaber might look a bit more like a generic wolf, but I'm somewhat more worried about Mith - all her super-activity staying up late and whatnot.

Ha! The last thing is actually a good point. Even though of course, she is two timezones behind us, might not have been that late for her usually... and of course depends what kind of daily time she usually reserves to WW, maybe the evenings are just a nice moment... but hmm.

Should we try to tell them about Rikae (will that give them any clues good enough?) or do we just try to affect the lynch (it might be a close one this time so it might have an effect)?

I'd kind of like to not empower anyone, but with five wolves sitting here idle I'm not too optimistic we could arrange it even if we wished - so basically if we want to vote someone and mean something with it, then we'd have to come up with some decent ideas fairly soon.

It is effectively probably not necessary even to tell them. I mean, they can just assume that she was innocent: they could assume we'd have told them if there was something important. But I stand behind my original statement: the best is to try to convey both, i.e. empower and tell about Rikae at the same time. That means empowering Shasta, Mith or Cab.

And until Shasta votes, and given that we have two votes for Mith already, I could really go with that and empower Mith for now. And see what happens toMorrow (hopefully, nothing anymore, and Cab will turn out to be a Wolf!).

[Rikae]

At any rate, let's not give our vote to Nilp, Kath or Sally and risk them getting the idea that I'm a wolf (and therefore, that Boro is evil).

I'm fine with Mith.

EDIT:
My future post #1430

Originally Posted by me

What on earth is Sally thinking? Shaking my head over here...

MY future post #1443

Originally Posted by me

No need to wait for me. As far as I'm concerned, Sally's talking nonsense. McC is as good a candidate as any, and if Mith is a wolf, she can be dealt with in turn.
She didn't chicken out of being modfired, she used her vote to try to lynch a wolf, as an ordo should.

++Mith
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[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I had forgotten about it. Yes, it looks a bit like that. Who knows... I just hope he isn't something Cursed that turns into a Wolf when the rest of the Wolves die or somesuch (we had similar thing in some earlier game, didn't we?).

That would explain his secrecy and continuous talk how he is on the villagers' side "for the time being" and will promise to "hunt the wolves first"...

So does this all come down to when the last villagers understand it is time to get rid of Boro?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That would explain his secrecy and continuous talk how he is on the villagers' side "for the time being" and will promise to "hunt the wolves first"...

So does this all come down to when the last villagers understand it is time to get rid of Boro?

Possibly. But in any case, not yet. I think it will really come down to it toMorrow.

For now, as you said, I have no strong preferences either way. If two people already voted to empower Mith, I could also vote for that, just so that we do not spread our vote around. Although the best would be if I could still see a couple of votes from the Living before it, so that we can be sure we are not causing some trouble with that (e.g. a vote tie...)

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Although the best would be if I could still see a couple of votes from the Living before it, so that we can be sure we are not causing some trouble with that (e.g. a vote tie...)

True. But looking at how late it got to wait for Lommy's vote the last Day - and her kind of "early voter" now off the list of the living - I'd hate to stand by in alert if something then happened - when the import of our vote probably isn't that big.

I'm not going to sleep exactly now, but as it is 1.30am already, I'm not going to stay awake for a long time either.

So giving my vote to Mith then unless something dramatic happens.

[Thinlómien]

Legate - I'm sure the dead had reason to be disappointed in me the Day before yesterDay, but at least it comforts me I've been more useful than you.

As for all this Boro business. Is there really anything we can do about it? If he wins, I daresay he has deserved it. And I still don't think he's evil, unless Kuru keeps changing rules mid-game to keep it balanced, which is not impossible. Incidentally, Nerwen - why did you say you wouldn't get more PMs and the ranger shouldn't protect you?

I suppose we could always ask Nerwen to dream of Boro, but I'm not sure that would be very informative, and we might rather want to check one of the unknowns if Boro can't kill anymore?

As for Mith and McCaber, I'm still undecided...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

As for all this Boro business. Is there really anything we can do about it?

Originally Posted by me#1409

But I'm afraid we can't deduce that and it would be even pretty hard to guess - so maybe we then just ignore him toDay unless there is more knowledge?

Originally Posted by Lommy

And I still don't think he's evil, unless Kuru keeps changing rules mid-game to keep it balanced, which is not impossible.

Originally Posted by Legate

I just hope he isn't something Cursed that turns into a Wolf when the rest of the Wolves die or somesuch (we had similar thing in some earlier game, didn't we?)

Originally Posted by Lommy

I suppose we could always ask Nerwen to dream of Boro

I'm afraid she's only allowed to dream of the dead now...

[Firefoot]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

As for all this Boro business. Is there really anything we can do about it? If he wins, I daresay he has deserved it. And I still don't think he's evil, unless Kuru keeps changing rules mid-game to keep it balanced, which is not impossible. Incidentally, Nerwen - why did you say you wouldn't get more PMs and the ranger shouldn't protect you?

I don't think so... because even if they lynch a wolf toDay, and we find out via scry toNight, we won't be able to alert them until the end of the next Day, which would be too late.

We'd sort of need the wolf to actually live through the lynch, and then s/he and Boro to take each other out. Assuming Boro still has kills.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Legate - I'm sure the dead had reason to be disappointed in me the Day before yesterDay, but at least it comforts me I've been more useful than you.

Bah! I have been very useful, you'd see how usefull I would have been had I been alive, or even as Dead, had somebody not posted a list for the Dead too late and then changed it into a completely useless one in the last minute!

As for all this Boro business. Is there really anything we can do about it? If he wins, I daresay he has deserved it.

Well he (probably) killed a bunch of Wolves, that much I'd certainly give him... But we'll see. Obviously if something doesn't add up and there are like known innocents and him alive, obviously he should be lynched... But even a blind person would see that, for sure...

I suppose we could always ask Nerwen to dream of Boro, but I'm not sure that would be very informative, and we might rather want to check one of the unknowns if Boro can't kill anymore?

Can she dream about the Living even now?

As for Mith and McCaber, I'm still undecided...

By the way, let's bear in mind that we are empowering now... so if we vote, in this case we vote for lynching the other person than whom we vote for...

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Legate - I'm sure the dead had reason to be disappointed in me the Day before yesterDay, but at least it comforts me I've been more useful than you.

As for all this Boro business. Is there really anything we can do about it? If he wins, I daresay he has deserved it. And I still don't think he's evil, unless Kuru keeps changing rules mid-game to keep it balanced, which is not impossible. Incidentally, Nerwen - why did you say you wouldn't get more PMs and the ranger shouldn't protect you?

Just on the off-chance that it would convince the wolves that I wasn't worth killing, that's all- I was pretty sure I'd already been protected.