Hard Winters Planning/Discussion Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Galadriel55 · 07-23-2015, 02:11 PM

If you need something to drive a horse berserk enough to kick a person, Ledwyn is at your service. Let's suppose she's sent to the stables for some reason, does something clumsy / trips / smashes into someone taking a horse out - the horse is angry, runs free, goes a-kicking. Or, for instance, if someone had their horse out and had to dash to someplace else, and just gave her the reins for a couple minutes, but once again being clumsy Ledwyn somehow scares the horse and lets go and etc. She's certainly clumsy enough with that sort of work, since I don't imagine she has lots of experience with horses. Sure, she can probably ride one when needed and knows their basic habits, but she's not that fond of them, and it's never been her job to take care of them, so if she's agitated herself, she could certainly make a fool of herself. So, rant aside, if you need someone to set a horse on another horse, I'm offering to do that.

Firefoot · 07-23-2015, 06:54 PM

There are other ways Safran could come up sick or lame as well. Bonus to this - built-in reason for interaction with Leof as well as our new herbs-woman.

Honestly, though, if I was you I would probably be trying to think of a reason to keep Elfthain at the Hall longer term, since (in the past, anyway) the timeline does not usually go day by day but jumps (a week, a month, several months sometimes) according to what's going on in the Hall and what suits the characters.

littlemanpoet · 07-23-2015, 07:11 PM

Picking up on Folwren's post, if we're eager to end this day and jump ahead a few, it looks like there are a few more things that need to happen.

- Folwren needs to write for Ruari, or maybe there needs to be a PM'd family post? to get Eodwine out of bed and moving toward Scyld.
- Scyld could beg off seeing Jian until later, say that he's looking for Eodwine?
- Elfthain could be invited to stay.

Firefoot · 07-23-2015, 07:31 PM

Scyld's letter does not necessarily need to be delivered today, though it could be if we want to keep writing the same day. No need to hold up on my account.

Also I guess since the away characters don't have to be on the same timeline a shorter jump is fine too. Whatever everyone else wants.

Firefoot · 07-23-2015, 08:56 PM

lmp, I wasn't really sure how to wrap up that last post. If you have anything more for Rowenna, feel free to pick it up there; otherwise if you want me to edit the end so they naturally drift away from each other while serving up dinner I could write that in as well.

Mithalwen · 07-23-2015, 10:04 PM

The mechanics of Safran being lamed isnt' the problem. She is turned out with a new group. Horses are hierarchical animals, it happens it doesn't even need a horse as obviously inpleasant as Bolt. Though seeing as she is there.. there are different types of fracture, and bones heal better than ligaments

I hadn't realised that the Meadhall did time jumps frequently or I would have chosen perhaps to make Elfthain start as having been there a while already. That ship has sailed. But I am still happy with the horse being injured as a reason not to go immediately since it seems that this type of injury is not uncommon and she will be absolutely fine after the box rest and convalsescence or at least fine enough to be a brood mare. It did occur that the injury would give scope for interaction with Javan, Leof and the witch

. It isn't the herblore he would have a problem with, his granny was skilled in it but in a more scientific way. just the hocus pocus....anything like that may disturb him.

Having thought about it, I don't want Elfthain to be injured at this point. I could write it but if I had thought of going there I wouldn't have started from here... I would have had new characters with less prior angst. It would be too painful and I wouldn't have given them both a taste of happiness, Elfride with a lovely new daughter to play with without the inconvenience of a new husband... and Elfthain a chance to be himself. Too mean. And I often seem to write unhappy characters and wanted a bit of a change.

So if the hall is prepared to take him, my feeling is that his uncle will let him stay on
the condition that he commits to a decent amount of time there not the few weeks necessary to see Safran through the worst of it....six months .. a year? He will probably approve that he wants to make his own way a bit. Then Eodwine/Thornden can make use of him as they see fit. Or I suppose Wilheard ...

None of this has to be played, Elfthain can muse as he tends his horse...

BTW I thought the woodlanders were only 5 miles away?

Undómë · 07-24-2015, 09:57 AM

Please don't hurry the timeline along - your characters and interactions are coming along nicely.

And we 'woodlander' writers for the time being have busy schedules.

07-23-2015, 02:11 PM	#1
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,519	If you need something to drive a horse berserk enough to kick a person, Ledwyn is at your service. Let's suppose she's sent to the stables for some reason, does something clumsy / trips / smashes into someone taking a horse out - the horse is angry, runs free, goes a-kicking. Or, for instance, if someone had their horse out and had to dash to someplace else, and just gave her the reins for a couple minutes, but once again being clumsy Ledwyn somehow scares the horse and lets go and etc. She's certainly clumsy enough with that sort of work, since I don't imagine she has lots of experience with horses. Sure, she can probably ride one when needed and knows their basic habits, but she's not that fond of them, and it's never been her job to take care of them, so if she's agitated herself, she could certainly make a fool of herself. So, rant aside, if you need someone to set a horse on another horse, I'm offering to do that. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

07-23-2015, 10:04 PM	#6
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	The mechanics of Safran being lamed isnt' the problem. She is turned out with a new group. Horses are hierarchical animals, it happens it doesn't even need a horse as obviously inpleasant as Bolt. Though seeing as she is there.. there are different types of fracture, and bones heal better than ligaments I hadn't realised that the Meadhall did time jumps frequently or I would have chosen perhaps to make Elfthain start as having been there a while already. That ship has sailed. But I am still happy with the horse being injured as a reason not to go immediately since it seems that this type of injury is not uncommon and she will be absolutely fine after the box rest and convalsescence or at least fine enough to be a brood mare. It did occur that the injury would give scope for interaction with Javan, Leof and the witch. It isn't the herblore he would have a problem with, his granny was skilled in it but in a more scientific way. just the hocus pocus....anything like that may disturb him. Having thought about it, I don't want Elfthain to be injured at this point. I could write it but if I had thought of going there I wouldn't have started from here... I would have had new characters with less prior angst. It would be too painful and I wouldn't have given them both a taste of happiness, Elfride with a lovely new daughter to play with without the inconvenience of a new husband... and Elfthain a chance to be himself. Too mean. And I often seem to write unhappy characters and wanted a bit of a change. So if the hall is prepared to take him, my feeling is that his uncle will let him stay on the condition that he commits to a decent amount of time there not the few weeks necessary to see Safran through the worst of it....six months .. a year? He will probably approve that he wants to make his own way a bit. Then Eodwine/Thornden can make use of him as they see fit. Or I suppose Wilheard ... None of this has to be played, Elfthain can muse as he tends his horse... BTW I thought the woodlanders were only 5 miles away? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace Last edited by Mithalwen; 07-26-2015 at 05:30 AM.

07-24-2015, 09:57 AM	#7
Undómë Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 400	Please don't hurry the timeline along - your characters and interactions are coming along nicely. And we 'woodlander' writers for the time being have busy schedules. __________________ Young she was and yet not so. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost, her white arms and clear face were flawless and smooth, and the light of stars was in her bright eyes, grey as a cloudless night . . .

07-23-2015, 06:54 PM	#2
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	There are other ways Safran could come up sick or lame as well. Bonus to this - built-in reason for interaction with Leof as well as our new herbs-woman. Honestly, though, if I was you I would probably be trying to think of a reason to keep Elfthain at the Hall longer term, since (in the past, anyway) the timeline does not usually go day by day but jumps (a week, a month, several months sometimes) according to what's going on in the Hall and what suits the characters.

07-23-2015, 07:11 PM	#3
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Picking up on Folwren's post, if we're eager to end this day and jump ahead a few, it looks like there are a few more things that need to happen. - Folwren needs to write for Ruari, or maybe there needs to be a PM'd family post? to get Eodwine out of bed and moving toward Scyld. - Scyld could beg off seeing Jian until later, say that he's looking for Eodwine? - Elfthain could be invited to stay.

07-23-2015, 07:31 PM	#4
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	Scyld's letter does not necessarily need to be delivered today, though it could be if we want to keep writing the same day. No need to hold up on my account. Also I guess since the away characters don't have to be on the same timeline a shorter jump is fine too. Whatever everyone else wants.

07-23-2015, 08:56 PM	#5
Firefoot Illusionary Holbytla Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,547	lmp, I wasn't really sure how to wrap up that last post. If you have anything more for Rowenna, feel free to pick it up there; otherwise if you want me to edit the end so they naturally drift away from each other while serving up dinner I could write that in as well.