The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum


Visit The *EVEN NEWER* Barrow-Downs Photo Page

Go Back   The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum > Middle-Earth Discussions > The Books
User Name
Password
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-29-2015, 08:31 PM   #1
Ivriniel
Shade of Carn Dūm
 
Ivriniel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 430
Ivriniel has just left Hobbiton.
I'm not at all sure about what Tolkien quite meant by 'evil'. Certainly, there were indications of greed, and non-sexual lusted avarice, in the context of profound egocentrism or narcissism.

Certainly, by 'vibe' (for lack of any clear tool to crisply characterise Tolkien's sense of 'what' evil was exactly), then Nazgul, Yrch, Balgrog characterise features of evil, especially Nazgul.

Dragons on the other hand? I understand they fought for Morgoth, then for Sauron, but I've not had a crisp sense of 'why' or 'what' it was about them that was evil. Certainly, I 'get' that they eat Elves, humans and so on, and operate as agents to extend a Dark Lord's realm. I suppose that makes them 'evil' at least by proxy.

But if I look into the Silmarillion, there I see Glaurung mostly beguiling, making things forget themselves, burning up Elves to make room in an abode, and flying through skies during Dagor.....up to 5 (I forget when they got wings). These things make them ****ing scary in an encounter, but not like the screech of the Nazgul.

I don't know at all how to respond to the opening post in any prescriptive way
Ivriniel is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:30 AM.



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.