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Old 01-29-2003, 04:58 PM   #9
Iarwain
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Just like to clarify something. The Grey Havens are on the Gulf of Lhun. Merry and Pippin did, in fact, reach the havens in the books. Valinor, however is a completely different story. As Merry and Pip were mortal and had no reason for going to valinor, (not the Havens) they could not. Plus, the Valar would not have allowed them to enter. I strongly suggest that all of you read the Silmarillion. With that knowledge, you would better understand the Geography of Middle-Earth, and its boundaries.

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