"Do You Hate Women?"

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Faramir Jones

In terms of what you said here, Aaron:

In truth, it's the result of the whole ethos of the movie. The actress isn't to blame. They wanted to make The Hobbit into an action trilogy, and she got shoehorned into the love interest role. It's quite a shame. She would have made a good Orc.

What annoyed me so much was the seemingly endless publicity at the time of statements that the new female Elf wasn't being introduced as a love interest...

I heard that the actress was quite insistent that she not be given a romantic subplot, but upon actually filming the thing was told that was precisely their plan.
The truth of this I don't know, but it would fit in with the wider incompetence of the troubled production.

[Faramir Jones]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I heard that the actress was quite insistent that she not be given a romantic subplot, but upon actually filming the thing was told that was precisely their plan.
The truth of this I don't know, but it would fit in with the wider incompetence of the troubled production.

That's very interesting, Aaron. If true, she, as well as ourselves, was also lied to by the relevant people.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Aaron

I heard that the actress was quite insistent that she not be given a romantic subplot, but upon actually filming the thing was told that was precisely their plan.
The truth of this I don't know, but it would fit in with the wider incompetence of the troubled production.

I find that very interesting because I don't remember seeing that anywhere before.

Is there a source you could point to? I'm curious to see this.

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

I find that very interesting because I don't remember seeing that anywhere before.

Is there a source you could point to? I'm curious to see this.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/bp/the-...211339686.html
To her credit, she did the best she could with the material she was given. But it's sad she was treated so badly.

[Faramir Jones]

Originally Posted by Aaron

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/bp/the-...211339686.html
To her credit, she did the best she could with the material she was given. But it's sad she was treated so badly.

Thanks for the link, Aaron. What I read is, very sadly, not surprising...

[Lalaith]

But it's sad she was treated so badly

Indeed - I felt very sorry for her having to act it. I also felt very sorry for myself having to watch it. Excruciating.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Indeed - I felt very sorry for her having to act it. I also felt very sorry for myself having to watch it. Excruciating.

She at least received compensation for her work.

I had to pay for the privilege...or rather some other people did.

[Marwhini]

Interesting that someone mentioned the Stan/Loretta character of Eric Idle from The Life of Brian.

I cannot think of a more appropriate reference with which to Mock the actor who played Tauriel, and her weird observations about Tolkien, nor mocking PJ's inclusion of this character into The Hobbit.

The Stan/Loretta character in The Life of Brian was/is mocking the Post-Modernist and Identity Politics that had arisen during the 60s/70s/80s.

And Lilly's critique of "Does Tolkien hate Women?" is itself such a manifestation of Identity Politics, and Post-Modernist revisionism.


As is the character's inclusion into The Hobbit by Peter Jackson.

It is an egregious addition whose sole purpose is to pander to a female Post-Modernist Identity.

Tolkien's works are not "Modern" even.

Anyway.... The interview in the OP just shows the contempt of Tolkien's work held by most people. Very sad.

MB

[Zigûr]

Originally Posted by Marwhini

Tolkien's works are not "Modern" even.

I disagree with this. Tolkien may have been heavily inspired by medieval sources, but he lived for almost his entire life in the twentieth century and was influenced by his context. Tolkien was not a "Modernist" but I believe he was "Modern".