Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Living Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I still *strongly* disagree. The Dead would have known no more than we did if they had had a vote on Day 2. They would not have been able to vote to reveal any roles yet at that point, so they would have had no more information than we did. "Robbing" us of one uninformed vote in favor of having another person still alive to give their own uninformed vote - and be able to defend it - does not seem like a bad trade to me.

But with two rather than one in the Dead Thread they could have checked on of them and deal the information to us? Okay. We need to check up the rules. If you're correct - then I was wrong and vice versa... I'll do it (darn clock going that fast...)

EDIT: X'd with many...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

All right, let's talk votes. I'm ready to vote for just about anyone - pretty much the only person I think might be innocent is Eonwe, for reasons stated previously. I still haven't decided what I think about Boro but inclined to leave him today. I'm also leaning very slightly towards Nerwen being innocent.

[Lalaith]

Why do you want to leave Boro today, Eomer? I've been concerned about voting for him in his absence, is that your reason too or is it something else?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

He's obviously been a bit weird since Day 1, but I'm not convinced it's evil; and since there's probably 2 wolves created since then, I prefer to look elsewhere for now.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

He's obviously been a bit weird since Day 1, but I'm not convinced it's evil; and since there's probably 2 wolves created since then, I prefer to look elsewhere for now.

If you're talking about Boro, I concur. I don't really want to see him being toDay's "default" lynch.
Edit: x'd since quoted post.

[satansaloser2005]

Agreeing with Eomer and Nerwen. To clarify my lynch preference....


1. Lottie (especially with her latest post, which rings false to me)
2. Steve
3. Nerwen (only in a pinch)


Begin the frenzied refreshing!


x'd since after Nerwen's 441

[Loslote]

At the moment, I am concerned about Nog and Eönwë, and I'm feeling a little wary of Legate and Brinn, but I'm not wildly suspicious of any of them. I definitely don't want to vote Legate or Brinn toDay, I don't have a concrete enough suspicion of either of them, and I've been back and forth on Nog so much this game that I don't know that I'm super comfortable voting for him, either. That leaves Eönwë by default, but I'm not eager to see him lynched, either. I could maybe be down with voting for Boro, if only because it would be too easy to write him off as playing weird this game and accidentally let a Borowolf through to the end. But I'm not super happy about any of the options.

EDIT: xed since Lalaith

[satansaloser2005]

Am I missing something, or have there not been any votes yet? I swore someone voted earlier.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I do think I'm getting a bit of if/then information from mentioning Legate earlier. For example, should Legate turn out a wolf, I'd probably next look at Eomer and Lottie. Eomer in particular I found to be interestingly distance-y in a subtle saving way.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Right, I'm not waiting til 5 minutes before deadline, because maybe the Dead are frantically waiting for us so they can make a decision. So I'm sticking with my previous vote.

++LOSLOTE

[satansaloser2005]

As promised, but actually a little earlier, because I'm not going to change my mind.

++Lottie

Sorry, Pop. *scritches*


x'd since Nog's last

[Nogrod]

My gut feeling right now is to go after those who try to capitalize it with their clear understanding of the rules...

Knowing them is no fault, but using it is. Just saying.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Gah, now of course Nog in his last one backtracks, and now he's looking more genuine. Idk maybe I should just vote Boro again. I mean it isn't like he stopped being fishy.

Also when did it become so late!

EDIT: x-ed with all the votes. Here we go.

[Brinniel]

Since I found him concerning on both lists I just made:

++Eonwe

[Mithalwen]

I don't want to vote for Eomer, Nerwen, Brinniel or Lal. They have spoken sensibly on the whole. I am not convinced that the Dead t hr3ad discussion wasn't deliberately spun out

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Anyone for no-lynch today?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Anyone for no-lynch today?

Man, don't make me rethink my opinion of you....

[satansaloser2005]

Heads up: I am voting in five minutes just so I don't have trouble like yesterDay.

P.S. Even numbered post link! Only 500 more to 6k!

[Lalaith]

Goodness people, it's 15 minutes to deadline and no votes as far as I can see...I feel like we're like Bill, Bert and Tom, we're being kept chatting and arguing until we're all turned to stone.
Well I've been vacillating between Boro and Lottie for my vote toDay. It looks like (as I am writing this) that I'm first to vote and as my own doubts about voting Boro are seemingly echoed elsewhere in the village I'll go for
++Lottie

[Kuruharan]

~~~Our Tale~~~

The guests spent the DAY in debate.

Except for when they paused to enjoy two theatrical performances.

Suddenly, at the conclusion of the second play, Brinniel stood to her feet and cried, "I FEEL STRANGELY EMPOWERED!". The other guests scratched their heads and ignored this...mostly.

It was about that time that the guests noticed the absence of one of their members.

They hunted high and low and then found a note that said, "Ha ha ha! I found the way out. Bye!"

Someone had escaped!

This rendered the situation almost intolerable. That and the fact that they had an unspoken feeling that someone, somewhere was churning out a series of eye-roll inducing puns.

Seizing upon one of their number, they threw Lottie on the guillotine and pulled the lever.

CLUNK!

Living
Nerwen
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
satansaloser2005
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mithalwen
Eönwë
Nogrod
Brinniel

The Dead
Morsul the Dark
Inziladun
Thinlómien
Loslote

Escaped
Pervinca Took (Ordo)

[Kuruharan]

The NIGHT was dark and full of buzzing.

Yes, buzzing again.

bzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZ *whoosh* CLANG *doink*

"Who put that there?"

Silence.

Silence without stillness. As the guests slept they felt the swirling of many powers around them.

All in all, it didn't lend itself to a restful NIGHT.

Dawn broke, as was its habit.

The guests assembled around the guillotine again. They set off in search of the route taken by the escapee.

On their way they found the body of Mithalwen who apparently tried to do the same in the NIGHT.

Well...

Living
Nerwen
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
satansaloser2005
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Eönwë
Nogrod
Brinniel

The Dead
Morsul the Dark
Inziladun
Thinlómien
Loslote
Mithalwen

Escaped
Pervinca Took (Ordo)

[Boromir88]

So the Dead tell us Zil is innocent. I say continue on and ask if they checked Lottie.

Divide it up into 3 groups again...Lottie is prey, predator or none of the above.

My weirdness early on was purely out of a desire to join in the dead thread, which I have never managed to make in 3 chances now. I said it was what my heart greatly desired. Alas, it seems I'm cursed to not ever partake in the Dead community...early on I would have really only been effecting my own luck in this dwarven game, but now I don't want to do anything that could be harming the GW.

Yesterday I was completely booked from 10am-9pm my time. But that's the only day I had a major scheduling conflict. So, you all take that or leave it, I've been shut out of the white shores again it seems. It's fine.

[Boromir88]

The theory that I was a sacrificial wolf defending EW Lottie is now debunked though...so yes, I'm going to be suspicious of those pushing that interpretation. I said I didn't do it for her, but I guess I should be used to not being taken at face value.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Basically, I am sorely tempted at the moment to vote Nogrod. I would personally like to hear more from Boro. The submarines (especially Brinn, Mithalwen and Sally) would be next in line, but they also fall into the cathegory that I would prefer more data, otherwise it's mostly vote based on what they didn't do rather than what they did. Lalaith was a submarine too, but recently started posting much more and I can get a better read on her and wouldn't want to vote her toDay. Similarly with Shasta.

Eomer and Lottie I should probably re-check, but there wasn't anything that would make me vote them. Nerwen I just re-checked and also after her last response, I think I will just keep it at that for the time being. I am just wary of the fact that from her, one can expect anything. Some people have been suspecting Eönwë, but for myself, I didn't get any warning signs from his behavior that would make me suspect him now.

EDIT: x-ed probably since my last with a lot

[Kuruharan]

The deadline has come.

Please stop posting.

[Eönwë]

Ok, it looks like I have very very limited time for the game sadly toDay, so just going to put down as many of my thoughts now.

[Nogrod]

Okay. here it is.

Originally Posted by the Rules

After there are TWO residents of the Dead Thread, every DAY the dead get to vote on giving one of the living an extra vote. The dead are subject to the same deadline as the living. The living will not know who among them will get an extra vote until it is revealed in the closing narration of the DAY.

So, if there are two Dead on D2, they are allowed to give an empowerment to someone's vote in the Living Thread. With a no lynch on D1 there wasn't two but only one. Correct?

Then:

Originally Posted by teh Rulez

Since in the anteroom of the afterlife it is hard to hide one’s true nature from one’s fellow residents, every NIGHT after there are TWO residents the dead get to vote for one among themselves to determine their true nature. The voted player will be described as either PREDATOR or PREY.

Now how to read this?

If there would have been someone lynched on D1 and someone killed on N2 could they have voted on N2? Well, probably not as it could be the Night-killed only learned about her/his destiny just a few moments before the Night ended / the next Day started?


So I stand corrected.

But I also realise what made me think it otherwise - and it is this:

Originally Posted by Ze rulls

Please Note: The threshold for the Dead Thread voting has been reduced to two since the Dead Thread will (presumably) not be filling up super-fast like the last Dead Thread game and I wanted to give the dead something to do sooner in the game. Yes, the first two residents of the Dead Thread will probably reflexively vote for each other for the role reveal…but then again, maybe they won’t.

Now in a normal situation there would have been one dead by lynch and one by baddies - follows a Day in which there is no voting among the Dead about their identities - so comes Night and they can finally vote to see who they are - but they seem to be like two Days behind because they have to vote just between the two of them - and not include the one who enters that Night, if I read the rules correctly now.

Which is insane and totally making the Dead Thread crippled and null and void. It looks like I didn't read this closely enough. But being two days behind it's just more or less same if we didn't have the Dead thread at all (well, maybe somewhere very late in the game - if there was a late game in the first place).