Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Dead Thread

[Morsul the Dark]

So instead of voting to reveal a role why not vote to empower someone to hopefully get a wolf or even EW Exposed.

Revealing our innocence doesn't do any good if they're just knocking off ordos left and right.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

So instead of voting to reveal a role why not vote to empower someone to hopefully get a wolf or even EW Exposed.

Revealing our innocence doesn't do any good if they're just knocking off ordos left and right.

Trouble is, we don't know who they are anymore than the living do. In the worst case we don't help getting the EW or a wolf lynched and we miscommunicate to them that Lottie was a predator and you can bet the evil team will use that misinformation to the last drop to get some unfortunate innocent lynched and to lull the village into a false sense of security, basically sidetracking the whole discussion at least for one more Day. Plus with the tie = no lynch rule the voting is already a hassle around the dl, if we try to coordinate to add to that hassle I'm afraid we're going to cause a mess. Not that we can't cause a mess either way...

Originally Posted by Eomer, on the living thread

Anyone else think the narration is pretty strange today?

Mithalwen was apparently taking the same route as the escapee; many powers swirling around them.

If there were 3 wolves among us then then there could be no wolf kill. EW would have to scry. GW might have sent Mith to the dead thread for her to come back tomorrow.

Mith, are you an ordo?

[Thinlómien]

Aaaand now I think Lalaith is good and Eönwë is evil. I feel somewhat selfishly happy it's not really my problem anymore, and I can flip flop here as much as I want.

[Thinlómien]

Oh and btw a heads-up - I think I'll have to cast my empowerment vote about two hours before the deadline at the latest because I have work in the morning and I know I'm gonna stay up late regardless but hopefully not until 3 am (which is the dl in Finland).

[Morsul the Dark]

True. We don't necessarily know who's evil but let's be honest if the wolves are manipulating the "good evil reveal" lists they can easily put all the baddies up top as empowerment contenders. I'm not entirely sure why they haven't mentioned it(full disclosure I haven't read the living thread since yesterday.)

There are what? 5 of us here? Pervinca is gone that leaves ten with four baddies and one in reserve. I forget if Kuru confirmed that the EW number wise counts for innocent.

They're either at 7/3 or 6/4 getting a wolf and having one resurrected or added only gives them 6/3 or 5/4.

I'm just not sure a reveal will help them. I think it's safe to say we're all prey. I realize there's no guarantee of that.

[Mithalwen]

Yep. I am ordo. I mean I assume they wluld have told me if I were a visitor.

[Kuruharan]

So much chatting while I was asleep.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Was there a clarification about whether the village will know who was empowered or] not if that person doesn't vote?

There wasn't, but the empowered person is always called out whether they vote or not.

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Yep. I am ordo. I mean I assume they wluld have told me if I were a visitor.

It depends on which Visitor you are. The Visitor Who Leaves comes immediately to the Dead Thread at the end of the NIGHT phase. But the odds are that there would be two people missing from the Living Thread the next DAY giving some indication as to what happened...unless there was a Ranger save.

The Visitor Who Dies isn't told anything until they are resurrected to the Living Thread.

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I forget if Kuru confirmed that the EW number wise counts for innocent.

The Evil Wizard counts for the Evil Team.

[Morsul the Dark]

So yeah, They're at 6/4

So today is do or die. If they get a wolf and EW makes a new one and the night kill is successful that's actually.... that's game isn't it?

6/3 wolf lynched
5/4 wolf made
4/4 Night kill.

If I'm doing the math right pretty much the baddies have already won. Unless there's a ranger save.

[Mithalwen]

Oh no. Don't tell me I mighg have to go back? Oh noooo.. oh well I can tell them they are screwed less obliquely.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Trouble is, we don't know who they are anymore than the living do. In the worst case we don't help getting the EW or a wolf lynched and we miscommunicate to them that Lottie was a predator and you can bet the evil team will use that misinformation to the last drop to get some unfortunate innocent lynched and to lull the village into a false sense of security

I think we're bound to go by the Living's agreed on format. By the current one (put forth by Lal):

Lottie prey
Nerwen
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
satansaloser2005

Lottie predator
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Nogrod


None of the above
Eonwe
Brinniel

I would say our choice should be Boro or Sally. I'm less leery of them than the other two in their category.

However, that grouping by Lal is questionable, since it has people I really don't want to empower in the Lottie-Prey bunch.