6 Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië

[Findegil]

Well, I am not that sure that the gems were not 'naturally' embeded in the walls. Since Gems were no longer invented by the Noldor, It is more then possible that Aule when building the Calacirya placed the Gems just below surface so that when the Noldor learned how to read the signs where to find Gems they diged a bit here and there and freed the Gems but let them be where they were.

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Findegil

[gondowe]

Well, I suppose that we must make differwnces between gems as raw and jewels as worked pieces.
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[ArcusCalion]

To be honest, I think the passage as I inserted it leaves things ambiguous enough that both readings are possible

[Findegil]

Yes, true. I was not arguing for any diffrent editing, I just gave my oppinion about the matter.

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Findegil

[ArcusCalion]

Found a tiny tidbit again, in the VT41 notes on the Shibboleth:

Nerdanel herself had brown hair and a ruddy complexion.

I propose we add this in here:

EPE-EX-34 <SF marginal note VT 41 Elves did not have beards until they entered their third cycle of life.> He usually wore a band of copper about his head. His hair was not as dark or black as was that of most of the Noldor, but brown, and had glints of coppery-red in it. EPE-EX-34.5 <SF marginal note VT41 Nerdanel herself had brown hair and a ruddy complexion.> Of Nerdanel's seven ...

[Findegil]

Okay, I have taken up EPE-EX-34.5 and following gondowe's wish I have looked up the passage corrosponding to AAm year 1149 and would add to it thus (only EPE-EX-04.5 is new):

§36 Therefore Ulmo drew the {Lindar [> }Vanyar{]} and the Noldor over the sea to the long shores beneath the Mountains of Valinor, and they entered the land of the {Gods}[Valar] and were welcomed to its bliss. EPE-EX-02 <AAm But when the Teleri learned that Ingwë and Finwë and their peoples were gone, they pressed on to the shore, and there dwelt in longing for their friends that had departed. And they took Olwë, Elwë's brother, to be their king.> {But the Teleri}They dwelt long by the coasts of the western sea, awaiting Ulmo's return; and they grew to love the sound of the waves, and they made songs filled with the music of water. Ossë EPE-EX-03 <AAm and Uinen> heard them, and came thither; and {he}they loved them, delighting in the music of their voices. Sitting upon a rock nigh to the margin of the sea {he}Ossë spoke to them and instructed them. EPE-EX-04 <AAm {In this year}At last Ulmo hearkened to the prayers of Finwë and went again to Middle-earth to bring Elwë and his people to Aman, if they would come. And most of them proved now willing indeed.> Great therefore was {his}Ossë’s grief when Ulmo returned at length to bear them away to Valinor. EPE-EX-04.5 <AAm For his care was for the seas of Middle-earth and the shores of the Outer Lands, and he came seldom to Aman, unless summoned to council; and he was ill-pleased that the fair voices of the Teleri should be heard no more in Middle-earth. >Some he persuaded to remain on the beaches of the Middle-earth, and these were the Elves of the Falas that in after days had dwellings at the havens of Brithombar and {Eglorest}[Eglarest] in Beleriand; but most of the Teleri embarked upon the isle and were drawn far away. EPE-EX-05 <AAm The kinsfolk and friends of Elwë also were unwilling to depart; but Olwë would be gone, and at last Ulmo took all who would embark upon Eressëa and drew them over the deeps of the Sea. And the friends of Elwë were left behind, and they called themselves, therefore, in their own tongue the {Eglath}[Egladrim], the Forsaken People. And they sought still for Elwë in sorrow. But it was not his doom ever to return to the Light of the Trees, greatly though he had desired it. Yet the Light of Aman was in the face of Melian the fair, and in that light he was content.> ...

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Findegil

[ArcusCalion]

From the note on Belfalas we were just discussing in Of the Rings of Power, I thought we might add in this footnote onto the end of one of the footnotes in this chapter about Cirdan:

... But in all this work Círdan had ever been the foremost and most inventive and skillful. EPE-EX-07.5 <RBHG All Elves were naturally skilled in making boats, but the craft that were to make a long voyage over Sea, perilous even to Elven-craft until Middle-earth was far behind, required more skill and knowledge.>]

As this addition is already a footnote in its source, I think adding into another footnote is ok. I am open to putting it other places, but this seems like the best place to me.