Werewolf CXIII: Death at Deadmen's Dike - GAME THREAD

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

This struck me as a bit much, on first read. Boro was fairly clearly roleplaying with that remark - at least, that's how I took it.

Not that clearly to me. What role would you say he was playing?

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

So... was there a reason for this, or...?

I tried to explain yesterDay, but maybe I was a bit too brief. I had pinned Boro as probably the cobbler for most of the Day (hence, like I said, not our main concern) when I remembered a situation where a suspected Borowolf acted extra nonsensically and was given a pass as probably the cobbler while the real cobbler (me) was lynched instead. (Nog's Lost Philosophers game, in which you played IIRC). I may have been guilty of some tunnel vision by the time I voted.

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

So I'm caught up, and I think my vote will likely be for Pitch unless something bombastic happens in the next few hours. I didn't like how he seemed to try to subtly push suspicion on not-Rune, and I didn't like his vote for Boro.

Oh well. Wasn't I allowed to suspect anybody but Rune on D1? This is easy to say with hindsight.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Not that clearly to me. What role would you say he was playing?


I tried to explain yesterDay, but maybe I was a bit too brief. I had pinned Boro as probably the cobbler for most of the Day (hence, like I said, not our main concern) when I remembered a situation where a suspected Borowolf acted extra nonsensically and was given a pass as probably the cobbler while the real cobbler (me) was lynched instead. (Nog's Lost Philosophers game, in which you played IIRC). I may have been guilty of some tunnel vision by the time I voted.


Oh well. Wasn't I allowed to suspect anybody but Rune on D1? This is easy to say with hindsight.

Of course you were, I'm not trying to tell you how to play. I do think it's a bit odd that you'd go so hard after someone you thought was exactly Moon Moon, though. And hindsight or not, it does, from this side, look as though you didn't want to lynch Rune.

[Huinesoron]

With Shasta's post 118, I can see the Pitch argument a bit better, but it's not enough to counter everything I've read from Pitch. In the absence of both better candidates and any more time, then, I will have to cast my vote for:

++Nerwen

For reasons covered in my last post.

Now I'm off to roost upside-down in a tree and hope for the best once more.

hS

[Pitchwife]

A look at everybody:

Nerwen - posted nothing yesterDay, opened toDay with an analysis of Zil‘s death, concluded he was killed either as looking too innocent because of his vote for Rune or as a possible Seer. Points out that those who voted yesterDay shouldn‘t be considered clear (which nobody had suggested), but doesn‘t voice any concrete suspicion. Could be anything really.

Sally - late vote for Rune after defending Boro; has been more active toDay: some friendly banter directed at Boro and Nerwen, followed by an analysis of the votes:
- Huey‘s could be wolf-on-wolf
- Boro‘s ‚fair in theory but regrettable in practice‘
- mine valid but doesn‘t sit quite right
- Lal‘s not opportunistic, but ‚further widened the playing field‘, which isn‘t good
- Zil‘s could have seemed seerish to the wolf (see Nerwen above)
- her own to prevent last minute votes lynching another candidate
Defends Boro as not cobblerish.
I disagree with her about Boro‘s vote, but I can‘t see anything clearly furry here.

Boro - has terminated goofy mode and promised to come back later. I‘d like to see what he does then.

Lalaith - explains her vote to me; Huey and Sally probably non-wolves, maybe one of them cobbler, but more likely there‘s a low-lying cobbler from the absentee group; defends Sally‘s vote to me as probably not wolvish; thinks I look good if the wolf thought Zil was the Seer. Very little to go on really, but she‘s defended several people while voicing no suspicion against possible wolves. Could that be a lone wolf desperately looking for allies?

Huey - Sally‘s vote could be a safe wolf vote; Boro less likely a wolf because early suspicion by Runewolf; dubious about Lalaith‘s vote (note, that was before she explained it); doesn‘t suspect me; concerned about a silent wolf; engages Boro and Sally, considers a WolfSally/BoroMoon pairing, concludes it wouldn‘t make sense. Some counter-suspense against Morsul, who suspected him before.

Huey is generally reasonable, but I‘m not quite comfortable with how he seems to assume he should be considered as a known innocent because he gave Rune the first vote and suspects Sally and Morsul back for doubting this.

Morsul - Huey suspicious, trusts Sally. Intends to vote Huey, does so. His reasoning is a bit thin here, but I‘m assuming he‘s allright for now.

Shasta - Boro not likely Rune‘s packmate; questions and suspects me; no opinions about anybody else as far as I can see. Really?

If the wolf is among yesterDay‘s loudmouths, I suppose it could be Huey (I don‘t know what Boro is, but anyway I‘m giving him a pass until we hear more of him); if among yesterDay‘s silents or latecomers, it could be Nerwen or Lalaith; not sure about Shasta – at least he‘s voiced a suspicion toDay, if one I disagree with for obvious reasons. Not Sally, not Morsul.

(x-ed with Huey's vote)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Shasta - Boro not likely Rune‘s packmate; questions and suspects me; no opinions about anybody else as far as I can see. Really?

No, not really - I did specifically say I don't think Huey is the wolf based on yesterday's voting.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Pitch

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Others:

My queen seems like her normal self - no red flags there.

Morsul's vote/theory on Huey isn't one I can get behind, but that's pretty much normal-Morsul as well. Not too worried.

Sally - eh. Again, no real red flags - nothing stuck out to me in a particular fashion.

Boro - goofy. Possible candidate for dorky husky. Don't know, though - that's almost too easy.

Huey - unlikely wolf based on early Rune-wagon yesterday. With only two wolves I tend to think they'd be a bit more careful in terms of bussing - especially with how lackadaisical yesterday's lynch seemed to be.

Lalaith - outside shot at her being the wolf based on absenteeism; I do think there's possible merit to the other wolf not being around to try and influence the lynch off of Rune.

Pitch - the wolf, in my opinion. Subtly tried to push lynch away from Rune onto possible Moon Moon-Boro, and shaded me when I called attention to it.

I'm headed out. Lynch wisely, guys.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

No, not really - I did specifically say I don't think Huey is the wolf based on yesterday's voting.

Yeah, you did, I overlooked that. Sorry.

I can't help wondering whether Morsul's suspicion of Huey is as solid as his trust of Sally; it doesn't seem so as far as I can tell.

Between Nerwen and Lalaith, I'd prefer voting for Lalaith; I have a notion Nerwen might have done more than her analysis if not for time zone difference, whereas Lal made several posts but was almost Ms Agreeable in terms of voicing no suspicion.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Sally -Defends Boro as not cobblerish.

On the contrary, my dear sir. I in fact said (though admittedly in a different post) that Boro could be the cobbler, but if he is, he's not our target.

As for Huey, I said I could see the possibility of wolf-on-wolf and that I wouldn't count him as innocent based solely on that vote. To make that clearer, I'm not assuming Huey is innocent because he voted for Rune on Day One. Of course ToDay he's made my brain hurt in a suspicious kind of way.

Speaking of aching brains, I have a nasty migraine and am leaving shortly for a friend's NYE gathering during which I will likely fall asleep on their couch within an hour. I'll probably vote soon.


x'd since Pitch

[satansaloser2005]

I swear I typed this, but apparently I didn't.

It seems to me like Pitch is twisting words, which doesn't strike me as his normal self. I'm well aware it might just be my migraine, so if others feel I'm reading too much into this, please let me know.


....I just received a reply to a FB message asking who Pitch is and whose words he is twisting. Ah, so that's what happened. I'm going mobile for the rest of the Day.

[satansaloser2005]

Just in case I pass out before I'm able to vote....



If I don't make it back, that's pretty much what happened.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

On the contrary, my dear sir. I in fact said (though admittedly in a different post) that Boro could be the cobbler, but if he is, he's not our target.

Originally Posted by Sally #84 about Boro's vote

Picking a third party in this instance made him look better to several people, which is the opposite of a cobbler's job description.

?

[Lalaith]

Don´t want to go meta on everyone again but it is new years eve and I´m sneaking onto a computer at a party to do this so don´t expect much in depth analysis.
So early on in the Day I was thinking that I wouldn´t vote for Huey, Sally or Pitch (for reasons I stated earlier) and would probably go for one of the quiet ones (partly because I think we may have a quiet wolf or Cobbler and also on a selfish level with so few of us it makes it less fun to play if the active players are killed)
Now Huey, Sally and Pitch seem to be suspecting each other and I don´t know what to think. And Morsul has said some stuff which is usettling...

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Don´t want to go meta on everyone again but it is new years eve and I´m sneaking onto a computer at a party to do this so don´t expect much in depth analysis.

Fair enough. Enjoy yourself!

Originally Posted by Lalaith

I think we may have a quiet wolf or Cobbler

Who, do you think, could that be?

[Lalaith]

Oh great. Just gone back through the thread and it seems we have a vote each for Huey, Nerwen and Pitch. Not mad about any of these choices. I would be up for voting for Boro (Cobbler or wolf acting as cobbler?) or, under certain circumstances, for Morsul. But with so few of us, it seems silly to start vote-spreading.

[satansaloser2005]

Regarding Pitch's question to me, I thought I read more than one person say Boro looked all right today, but I may have misremembered when making that post.

[Lalaith]

Who, do you think, could that be?

Good question. I thought Shasta, but then I always suspect Shasta, even when we´ve both been wolves together!
But of the quiets I actually have most mixed feelings about Morsul right now.
Of the three we have votes for at the moment, I´d be most inclined to go for Nerwen, mainly because I don´t think either Pitch or Huey are guilty. I´ll go and have another glass of champagne and think about it...