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Old 12-31-2017, 06:46 PM   #1
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With Shasta's post 118, I can see the Pitch argument a bit better, but it's not enough to counter everything I've read from Pitch. In the absence of both better candidates and any more time, then, I will have to cast my vote for:

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For reasons covered in my last post.

Now I'm off to roost upside-down in a tree and hope for the best once more.

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Old 12-31-2017, 07:01 PM   #2
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A look at everybody:

Nerwen - posted nothing yesterDay, opened toDay with an analysis of Zil‘s death, concluded he was killed either as looking too innocent because of his vote for Rune or as a possible Seer. Points out that those who voted yesterDay shouldn‘t be considered clear (which nobody had suggested), but doesn‘t voice any concrete suspicion. Could be anything really.

Sally - late vote for Rune after defending Boro; has been more active toDay: some friendly banter directed at Boro and Nerwen, followed by an analysis of the votes:
- Huey‘s could be wolf-on-wolf
- Boro‘s ‚fair in theory but regrettable in practice‘
- mine valid but doesn‘t sit quite right
- Lal‘s not opportunistic, but ‚further widened the playing field‘, which isn‘t good
- Zil‘s could have seemed seerish to the wolf (see Nerwen above)
- her own to prevent last minute votes lynching another candidate
Defends Boro as not cobblerish.
I disagree with her about Boro‘s vote, but I can‘t see anything clearly furry here.

Boro - has terminated goofy mode and promised to come back later. I‘d like to see what he does then.

Lalaith - explains her vote to me; Huey and Sally probably non-wolves, maybe one of them cobbler, but more likely there‘s a low-lying cobbler from the absentee group; defends Sally‘s vote to me as probably not wolvish; thinks I look good if the wolf thought Zil was the Seer. Very little to go on really, but she‘s defended several people while voicing no suspicion against possible wolves. Could that be a lone wolf desperately looking for allies?

Huey - Sally‘s vote could be a safe wolf vote; Boro less likely a wolf because early suspicion by Runewolf; dubious about Lalaith‘s vote (note, that was before she explained it); doesn‘t suspect me; concerned about a silent wolf; engages Boro and Sally, considers a WolfSally/BoroMoon pairing, concludes it wouldn‘t make sense. Some counter-suspense against Morsul, who suspected him before.

Huey is generally reasonable, but I‘m not quite comfortable with how he seems to assume he should be considered as a known innocent because he gave Rune the first vote and suspects Sally and Morsul back for doubting this.

Morsul - Huey suspicious, trusts Sally. Intends to vote Huey, does so. His reasoning is a bit thin here, but I‘m assuming he‘s allright for now.

Shasta - Boro not likely Rune‘s packmate; questions and suspects me; no opinions about anybody else as far as I can see. Really?

If the wolf is among yesterDay‘s loudmouths, I suppose it could be Huey (I don‘t know what Boro is, but anyway I‘m giving him a pass until we hear more of him); if among yesterDay‘s silents or latecomers, it could be Nerwen or Lalaith; not sure about Shasta – at least he‘s voiced a suspicion toDay, if one I disagree with for obvious reasons. Not Sally, not Morsul.

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Old 12-31-2017, 07:12 PM   #3
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Shasta - Boro not likely Rune‘s packmate; questions and suspects me; no opinions about anybody else as far as I can see. Really?
No, not really - I did specifically say I don't think Huey is the wolf based on yesterday's voting.
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:13 PM   #4
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:18 PM   #5
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My queen seems like her normal self - no red flags there.

Morsul's vote/theory on Huey isn't one I can get behind, but that's pretty much normal-Morsul as well. Not too worried.

Sally - eh. Again, no real red flags - nothing stuck out to me in a particular fashion.

Boro - goofy. Possible candidate for dorky husky. Don't know, though - that's almost too easy.

Huey - unlikely wolf based on early Rune-wagon yesterday. With only two wolves I tend to think they'd be a bit more careful in terms of bussing - especially with how lackadaisical yesterday's lynch seemed to be.

Lalaith - outside shot at her being the wolf based on absenteeism; I do think there's possible merit to the other wolf not being around to try and influence the lynch off of Rune.

Pitch - the wolf, in my opinion. Subtly tried to push lynch away from Rune onto possible Moon Moon-Boro, and shaded me when I called attention to it.

I'm headed out. Lynch wisely, guys.
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Old 12-31-2017, 07:30 PM   #6
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No, not really - I did specifically say I don't think Huey is the wolf based on yesterday's voting.
Yeah, you did, I overlooked that. Sorry.

I can't help wondering whether Morsul's suspicion of Huey is as solid as his trust of Sally; it doesn't seem so as far as I can tell.

Between Nerwen and Lalaith, I'd prefer voting for Lalaith; I have a notion Nerwen might have done more than her analysis if not for time zone difference, whereas Lal made several posts but was almost Ms Agreeable in terms of voicing no suspicion.
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Sally -Defends Boro as not cobblerish.
On the contrary, my dear sir. I in fact said (though admittedly in a different post) that Boro could be the cobbler, but if he is, he's not our target.

As for Huey, I said I could see the possibility of wolf-on-wolf and that I wouldn't count him as innocent based solely on that vote. To make that clearer, I'm not assuming Huey is innocent because he voted for Rune on Day One. Of course ToDay he's made my brain hurt in a suspicious kind of way.

Speaking of aching brains, I have a nasty migraine and am leaving shortly for a friend's NYE gathering during which I will likely fall asleep on their couch within an hour. I'll probably vote soon.


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I swear I typed this, but apparently I didn't.

It seems to me like Pitch is twisting words, which doesn't strike me as his normal self. I'm well aware it might just be my migraine, so if others feel I'm reading too much into this, please let me know.


....I just received a reply to a FB message asking who Pitch is and whose words he is twisting. Ah, so that's what happened. I'm going mobile for the rest of the Day.
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Just in case I pass out before I'm able to vote....



If I don't make it back, that's pretty much what happened.
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On the contrary, my dear sir. I in fact said (though admittedly in a different post) that Boro could be the cobbler, but if he is, he's not our target.
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Picking a third party in this instance made him look better to several people, which is the opposite of a cobbler's job description.
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Don´t want to go meta on everyone again but it is new years eve and I´m sneaking onto a computer at a party to do this so don´t expect much in depth analysis.
So early on in the Day I was thinking that I wouldn´t vote for Huey, Sally or Pitch (for reasons I stated earlier) and would probably go for one of the quiet ones (partly because I think we may have a quiet wolf or Cobbler and also on a selfish level with so few of us it makes it less fun to play if the active players are killed)
Now Huey, Sally and Pitch seem to be suspecting each other and I don´t know what to think. And Morsul has said some stuff which is usettling...
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Don´t want to go meta on everyone again but it is new years eve and I´m sneaking onto a computer at a party to do this so don´t expect much in depth analysis.
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Who, do you think, could that be?
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Oh great. Just gone back through the thread and it seems we have a vote each for Huey, Nerwen and Pitch. Not mad about any of these choices. I would be up for voting for Boro (Cobbler or wolf acting as cobbler?) or, under certain circumstances, for Morsul. But with so few of us, it seems silly to start vote-spreading.
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Regarding Pitch's question to me, I thought I read more than one person say Boro looked all right today, but I may have misremembered when making that post.
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Regarding Pitch's question to me, I thought I read more than one person say Boro looked all right today
Well, since he's dropped his random goofy act he certainly looks better than he did yesterDay (which is no great feat)--which makes me raise an eyebrow at Lal's willingness to vote him based on my rehashed arguments from yesterDay.

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Good question. I thought Shasta, but then I always suspect Shasta, even when we´ve both been wolves together!
But of the quiets I actually have most mixed feelings about Morsul right now.
Of the three we have votes for at the moment, I´d be most inclined to go for Nerwen, mainly because I don´t think either Pitch or Huey are guilty. I´ll go and have another glass of champagne and think about it...
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Lal, my dear, I like how you think....
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Oh great. Just gone back through the thread and it seems we have a vote each for Huey, Nerwen and Pitch. Not mad about any of these choices. I would be up for voting for Boro (Cobbler or wolf acting as cobbler?) or, under certain circumstances, for Morsul. But with so few of us, it seems silly to start vote-spreading.
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Good question. I thought Shasta, but then I always suspect Shasta, even when we´ve both been wolves together!
But of the quiets I actually have most mixed feelings about Morsul right now.
Of the three we have votes for at the moment, I´d be most inclined to go for Nerwen, mainly because I don´t think either Pitch or Huey are guilty. I´ll go and have another glass of champagne and think about it...
A flag is raised. This looks like a possible attempt by Lalaith at avoiding "ownership" of her future vote. Note that this way she doesn't have to make a case against, or even express actual suspicion of whoever she ends up voting.

Will comment further when I've read the rest of the thread.

Edit: x'd with Pitch.
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