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|  03-05-2018, 09:11 PM | #3441 | 
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			That's it! N Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty. I Evergreens found among the doubly displaced. MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods? LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown. OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over. 6. A sound of danger troubles its branches. HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer. 
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|  03-06-2018, 04:25 AM | #3442 | 
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			Aha! Not Nisimaldar, but NESSAMELDA, the fragrant tree beloved of lads and seamen alike. hS | 
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|  03-06-2018, 04:34 AM | #3443 | 
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			Indeed. NESSAMELDA Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty. I Evergreens found among the doubly displaced. MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods? LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown. OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over. 6. A sound of danger troubles its branches. HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer. 
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|  03-06-2018, 12:28 PM | #3444 | 
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			6. TELPERION:  tone + peril. 7. ILEXES? (Anagram of 'exiles'). Even if it is a 'real world' tree, there are plenty of those in Tolkien's Middle-earth. They're probably mentioned in Ithilien or somewhere. ... quick google ... It's Latin for holly. OK. I daresay there were ilexes in Hollin, then. 
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|  03-06-2018, 08:03 PM | #3445 | |
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			Yep. Quote: 
 There! All done!  NESSAMELDA Boys and sailors scrambled for this Númenórean beauty. ILEXES Evergreens found among the doubly displaced. MALLORN Evil and lonely? In these fair woods? LEBETHRON Carved up, more high and honorable article gives support to a quest and guards a crown. OLD MAN WILLOW Another senior citizen sung better, and gave him something to weep over. TELPERION A sound of danger troubles its branches. HUORN A sleeping shepherd, one rating away from a Tasmanian conifer. 
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|  03-07-2018, 12:07 AM | #3446 | 
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			So ... it's back to Huinesoron!
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 03:40 AM | #3447 | 
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			Thanks for the password, Nerwen - it completely melted my brain at first, but we got there in the end! Trying something a little different here ('Oh no!', they all cry...); it shouldn't be too unclear (I hope). And the results of the kings' footrace are in! 1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! 2. In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his! 4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... 6. And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 06:35 AM | #3448 | 
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			Could that be ELENDIL in second place?  ("Lend ill")?
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 06:37 AM | #3449 | 
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			It is indeed! And the results of the kings' footrace are in! 1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his! 4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... 6. And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 07:14 AM | #3450 | 
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			For 3, I will unconfidently guess ELENDUR (perhaps spelled backwards).  One of the last things Isildur says to him is 'King's son!' For the legs ... he was said to be very like his grandfather, who was called Elendil the Tall.
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 08:31 AM | #3451 | 
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			I like it, but I'm afraid not. (You are looking for the king in 'this king's son's legs...', not the son.) hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 08:35 AM | #3452 | 
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			Perhaps Arathorn, then? Eomer was quite impressed with Aragorn's running ability.
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 09:10 AM | #3453 | 
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			Not Arathorn. Am I about to receive an education in who has the best legs in Middle-earth...?   hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 09:32 AM | #3454 | 
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			On the off-chance that "go ill" and "glad" are not said by accident, Gil-Galad for 6?
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 09:46 AM | #3455 | 
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			And the results of the kings' footrace are in! 1. In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his! 4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! Gil-Galad it is; 'shortly' is meant to be a hint that you need to contract the next few words. hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 01:06 PM | #3456 | 
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			Could the doll-king be Vardamir Noliman, son of Elros, whose rule was only titular and who let his son take the throne instead?
		 
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|  03-07-2018, 03:27 PM | #3457 | 
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			Alas, he is not. hS | 
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|  03-07-2018, 05:22 PM | #3458 | 
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			Is the grey king Thingol or Singollo? 'Losing' could perhaps be the 'desperate' element. 
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|  03-07-2018, 05:27 PM | #3459 | 
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			No and no. hS | 
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|  03-08-2018, 01:58 AM | #3460 | 
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			So what could "doll king" mean?  That is a very strange description...
		 
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|  03-08-2018, 02:29 AM | #3461 | 
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			Apparently "Gram" (father of Helm Hammerhand) means "fierce" in Old English- but then I can't see how the rest of the clue would apply.  Maybe gram = small measurement? 
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|  03-08-2018, 03:27 AM | #3462 | 
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			You may be overthinking it a little.   It's not Gram. Finding synonyms for 'rage' is along the right tracks, though. hS | 
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|  03-08-2018, 04:58 AM | #3463 | 
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			AMROTH?  ("Am wrath")?
		 
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|  03-08-2018, 05:07 AM | #3464 | 
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			And the results of the kings' footrace are in! amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards, this king's son's legs are more famous than his! 4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! Indeed! Amroth, whose name is best known from his namesake, Dol Amroth. Edit: Not to be confused with Cerin Amroth in Lorien (not that I would ever get the two mixed up...). Dude was a popular namesake. (At some point someone is going to have to figure out which letters in these names make up the password...) hS Last edited by Huinesoron; 03-08-2018 at 10:24 AM. Reason: Bolding. | 
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|  03-08-2018, 09:59 AM | #3465 | 
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			I guessed that was the deal with the lack of capital letters.  Do you think you could bold the answers, though? They're a little hard to focus on at the moment. 
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|  03-08-2018, 10:25 AM | #3466 | 
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			Bolded.   hS | 
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|  03-08-2018, 10:28 AM | #3467 | 
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			Ta.    
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|  03-08-2018, 10:43 AM | #3468 | 
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			Maybe REGNAL.  Third letter of each answer, reading from the top downwards. Also perhaps 'would have been first if not running backwards' means the kings appear in alphabetical order. 
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|  03-08-2018, 12:22 PM | #3469 | 
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			No and no. Sorry. hS | 
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|  03-09-2018, 12:21 AM | #3470 | 
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			More thinking aloud... who in Middle-earth has "famous legs"?  I mean other than "Strider", whose father has already been discounted (and was presumeably disqualified from the race anyway due to being a mere chieftain). Honestly I can't think of anyone...   
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|  03-09-2018, 01:00 AM | #3471 | 
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			An apostrophe has more than one meaning. hS | 
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			Not, in this case, in a way that retains grammatical sense, as far as I can see. Legs can be the number of times round a race-track or block. Unless one if them had a particularly impressive table with ornately carved legs. 
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|  03-09-2018, 03:03 AM | #3473 | 
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			All right, then: And the results of the kings' footrace are in! amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards; this king's son's legs? Far more famous. 4. In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! (Clue #3 edited to allow for grammatical sense. I think the other remaining clues hold up.) hS Last edited by Huinesoron; 03-09-2018 at 09:41 AM. | 
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|  03-09-2018, 12:25 PM | #3474 | 
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			I will guess ELROS for 4, as 3 letters short of PERILOUS, but I imagine 3 letters short is too much.
		 
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|  03-09-2018, 01:10 PM | #3475 | 
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			Not Elros, but again, synonyms are the way to go. (It's not even anagrammed this time!) hS | 
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|  03-10-2018, 05:10 PM | #3476 | 
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			A general hint, then: a certain historical event ties all these kings together. hS | 
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|  03-11-2018, 07:41 AM | #3477 | 
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			Battle of Dagorlad?  In which case I guess we have AMDÍR in fourth place?
		 
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|  03-11-2018, 09:06 AM | #3478 | 
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			If grey referred to Grey Elves, I guess the 'a bit green' one is either Oropher or Thranduil. Both fought in the Last Alliance and both were kings at some time.
		 
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 All right, then: And the results of the kings' footrace are in! amroth - In first place, the doll-king who simply is rage! elendil - In second place, the exiled king to borrow sickness from! 3. Next, he would have been first had he not run backwards; this king's son's legs? Far more famous. amdir - In fourth place, things are just short of desperate for this grey king! 5. Coming in second from last and feeling a bit green, this king's memories could be of him, or... gil-galad - And in very last place, this elven-king fears things will shortly go ill; glad he didn't win, then! Quote: 
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|  03-11-2018, 11:13 AM | #3480 | 
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			No. Unless the 'memories' bit means that he died in the battle, as GG did, in which case it would be Oropher. 
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