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Urwen · 03-12-2019, 10:50 AM

Here is one that I hope is equally creative

The sea is a part of me
And I am a part of the sea
Fear once ruled me
But I managed to overcome it, you see

Darkness claimed me
For its own
My hope was lost
But they'll reap what they've sown

Because through it all
My heart remained true
My will remained steadfast
And my patience was at its end

Great fire burned at that time
One that was easily distinguished
My spirit might have left it all behind
But the flame in my heart wasn't extinguished

Urwen · 03-12-2019, 06:40 PM

No takers?

Galadriel55 · 03-12-2019, 07:01 PM

That's a good one, HS! I thought it had a great ring to it as a poem, and it makes perfect sense when you know the answer.

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Originally Posted by Urwen

No takers?

Well give us a chance to even check the site! Patience, please!

My first instinct here is Earendil. Not a perfect fit but gotta get it out of the way.

Huinesoron · 03-13-2019, 03:10 AM

My first thought is Osse, the Maia of the sea who at one point turned to the Dark before coming back. Except that doesn't really work with the second half... it could be a duet between Osse (first 2 verses) and Uinen (last 2), with the fire being the Kinslaying at Alqualonde.

After that I thought of Earendil, but I'm worried we're being distracted by the presence of the Sea at the beginning. Focussing on the later parts, how about Gondolin?

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The sea is a part of me
And I am a part of the sea

"Remember that the true hope of the Noldor lieth in the West, and cometh from the Sea."

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Fear once ruled me
But I managed to overcome it, you see

The Gondolindrim sat the Sudden Flame out to avoid being found by Morgoth, but overcame that and rode to the Unnumbered Tears.

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Darkness claimed me
For its own
My hope was lost
But they'll reap what they've sown

The Fall of Gondolin, of course, and the fact that Earendil came from Gondolin to ultimately bring about Morgoth's downfall.

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Because through it all
My heart remained true
My will remained steadfast
And my patience was at its end

'Steadfast' could point at Voronwe the Faithful, who was a resident of Gondolin. Not sure about 'patience', unless we're back to the Unnumbered Tears again.

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Great fire burned at that time
One that was easily distinguished

I mean... yes, it did.

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My spirit might have left it all behind
But the flame in my heart wasn't extinguished

While the people of Gondolin (its 'spirit') have fled, they still carry the memory of it in their hearts.

hS

Urwen · 03-13-2019, 03:30 AM

Not Earendil, or Gondolin. It's a person, and the patience bit is something spoken in the book in regards to them.

P.S: You're right in that you shouldn't be focusing on the sea too much. It's more of an etymology thing.

Huinesoron · 03-13-2019, 03:36 AM

It'd be quite a dark answer, but Ar-Pharazon? He definitely gets impatient, and from his own perspective, he remains 'true' and 'faithful', 'overcoming fear' to assail the Undying Lands and make them 'reap what they sowed' in not granting Men access. He's also not exactly dead, hence the 'flame in my heart' part.

hS

Urwen · 03-13-2019, 06:03 AM

Nope, much earlier than that.

03-12-2019, 10:50 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Here is one that I hope is equally creative The sea is a part of me And I am a part of the sea Fear once ruled me But I managed to overcome it, you see Darkness claimed me For its own My hope was lost But they'll reap what they've sown Because through it all My heart remained true My will remained steadfast And my patience was at its end Great fire burned at that time One that was easily distinguished My spirit might have left it all behind But the flame in my heart wasn't extinguished __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-12-2019, 06:40 PM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	No takers? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-13-2019, 03:30 AM	#5
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Not Earendil, or Gondolin. It's a person, and the patience bit is something spoken in the book in regards to them. P.S: You're right in that you shouldn't be focusing on the sea too much. It's more of an etymology thing. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-13-2019, 06:03 AM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Nope, much earlier than that. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-13-2019, 03:36 AM	#6
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,973	It'd be quite a dark answer, but Ar-Pharazon? He definitely gets impatient, and from his own perspective, he remains 'true' and 'faithful', 'overcoming fear' to assail the Undying Lands and make them 'reap what they sowed' in not granting Men access. He's also not exactly dead, hence the 'flame in my heart' part. hS