Riddles in the Downs

[Huinesoron]

Agree with Sting as most likely, though writing Bilbo off as 'kinsman of the hero' amuses me. ^_^ Maybe [s]Biter[/s] Orcrist instead? It may have been found by one of the other dwarves before being given to Thorin.

... I've just been reminded that the movies have Legolas taking Orcrist and using it for almost the entirety of B5A, because apparently letting Thorin use his own sword was just too much for Jackson. -_-

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[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Sting?


The riddles go by so fast I can barely catch any unsolved.

That's correct.

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Agree with Sting as most likely, though writing Bilbo off as 'kinsman of the hero' amuses me. ^_^ Maybe [s]Biter[/s] Orcrist instead? It may have been found by one of the other dwarves before being given to Thorin.

... I've just been reminded that the movies have Legolas taking Orcrist and using it for almost the entirety of B5A, because apparently letting Thorin use his own sword was just too much for Jackson. -_-

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I was focusing on LoTR-verse for the most part, and Bilbo wasn't one there.


Sorry.


P.S: Since when can Orcrist foretell when the enemies approach?

[Pervinca Took]

Glamdring and Orcrist both glitter blue when orcs are near. They're of elvish make and from the same hoard as Sting.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Glamdring and Orcrist both glitter blue when orcs are near. They're of elvish make and from the same hoard as Sting.

It "gleamed ever in the dark if foes approached" (The Hobbit).

Which, come to think of it, makes a certain sense for a blade of Gondolin. It's the ultimate early-warning system: if Morgoth ever finds the city and sends his armies, the king's own sword(s) will let him know about it.

(Of course, for that to work they would have to detect Orcs as far away as the Echoriath, which must be multiple miles. Given that neither Glamdring nor Sting picked up on the Orcs infesting Moria until the Fellowship could already hear them, I guess the enchantment must have faded over the ages?)

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[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Glamdring and Orcrist both glitter blue when orcs are near. They're of elvish make and from the same hoard as Sting.

Didn't know that.



Did you know that there is a fan theory that all three of those were made by Maeglin?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Did you know that there is a fan theory that all three of those were made by Maeglin?

Ooh! Tell me more!

I'm guessing it's partly because his father was a swordsmith and the only named maker of enchanted (well, cursed) blades?

It would also make a twisted, evil sense for Maeglin to make swords to specifically detect Orcs - it would focus everyone's attention on that one possible enemy, letting him be wicked without undue suspicion. But perhaps this is an overly-uncharitable view of Maeglin.

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[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Ooh! Tell me more!

I'm guessing it's partly because his father was a swordsmith and the only named maker of enchanted (well, cursed) blades?

It would also make a twisted, evil sense for Maeglin to make swords to specifically detect Orcs - it would focus everyone's attention on that one possible enemy, letting him be wicked without undue suspicion. But perhaps this is an overly-uncharitable view of Maeglin.

hS

Sure. This theory also states that he made them to help Orcs rather than hinder them, with the blue light that the swords emitted serving as a homing beacon.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Sure. This theory also states that he made them to help Orcs rather than hinder them, with the blue light that the swords emitted serving as a homing beacon.

Oh. Oh, wow. That's even more evil than I expected.

It seems Maeglin was noted for forging swords 'of steel stronger than had been seen before' (Tolkien Gateway), so it certainly makes sense. And the fact that Glamdring and Orcrist were a mated pair, like Anglachel and Anguirel made by Eol, fits neatly. Oh, and Anglachel glowed... There's certainly more evidence than my 'Nellas is Legolas' mother' theory, for instance.

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